celtickh
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I am interested in posting my rifle for sale,i'm not a ffl dealer.What i was wandering is how much,and whats the process for shipping.Thanks
Q: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?
A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30
Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
As has been said, if you find that your local FFL's are charging an arm and a leg to assist you with shipping, there is absolutely no legal problem with you shipping it straight to your buyers FFL yourself. However, for reasons known only to themselves, some FFL's will not receive firearms from private parties - so if you are going to do this, ensure you state clearly on your ad that it is the buyers responsibility to ENSURE their FFL will receive a shipment from a private party.Thank you i really appreciate it!I'll get some prices from my local ffl dealer.
The link is valid for anyone who is interested in shipping any firearms any where in the USA.kingpin008 said:Nalioth - if you read my post, you'd see that I (as well as others) already mentioned that you don't have to ship from a FFL dealer. A section of relevant law was quoted as well. Why bother reiterating what's already been said?
Thanks for the catch (fixed on my end). It's ironic that the same sentence is here in THR's sticky, too.hanno said:nalioth,
The info at that link is not 100% correct. It says for example:
"For an FFL holder, a pistol (or rifle or shotgun) can be shipped FFL to FFL, FFL to the factory, or FFL to the gunsmith, via the US Mail."
That is not correct as a matter of law. Only manufacturers and bona fide dealers can mail handguns and then only between themselves.
See 18 U.S.C. 1715
Note: There are some other extremely limited exceptions in the statute for mailing handguns but they are not relevant to this discussion.
The text on that site says "FFL" but that is not what the controlling federal statute requires. This is important because a Collector of Curios or Relics License holder has a 03 "Federal Firearms License" but is not allowed to use the USPS for handguns.
Heaven forbid it matches the address on the ID . . .JD0608 said:we have to log down where the gun came from and a return address don`t cut it.
That is a business decision on y'alls part (not to accept the return address as "where the gun came from")
A stupid one, IMHO, because it's so easy to get a scan or copy of a DL if a miscreant wants one. . .
Oro:
The BATF or a local LE agency is going to judge an FFL who's in a tight spot - let's assume the gun ends up in a high-profile shooting - by the standard of if they used reasonable judgment in determining who they received a gun from in their book. Having been duped by a faked or stolen ID is excusable. Reading a scribbled address on an package and trusting that it's legit is not going to cut it.