Question about the term "clips"

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Question about the term "clips"

I've heard that's an anti-gun term when used vs magazine. Can someone explain to me the origin of why it's considered anti-gun?
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According to one anti-gunner, banning new large capacity magazines would mean that as the bullets in the grandfathered magazines left legal were used up, they would become useless and eventually there would be no usable large capacity feeding devices left in circulation.

When it was pointed out that large capacity magazines can be reloaded with new cartridges, the anti-gunner's aide clarified to the media that she really meant banning new large capacity clips. Old large capacity clips left legally owned would become useless since clips could not be reloaded with bullets because they lacked a feeding device, unlike the large capacity magazines.

There was a politician wanting to felonize manufacture and sale of "large capacity" whatsits, which millions of people own, without a clue of what they were legislating about. Typical anti-gunner: ignorant and hateful,


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The problem with that illustration in post #5 is that Marlin .22 detachable box magazine. The factory lists it as a "clip".

I have been shooting since the 1950s and back in the day, since stripper clips and en bloc clips were not common in sporting guns, "clips" was shorthand for "detachable box magazines" and technically correct clips were either "stripper clips" (Mauser, Mosin-Nagaznt) or "en bloc clips" (Garand, Carcano).

And technically correct stripper clips can be used to charge (load) technically correct detachable box magazines usually by use of a charger. Magazine loader is used to force individual rounds into a magazine.
 
It is not a big deal

when we all know what is meant. Shooters have been calling magazines clips for a long time with no big problem. Even the old Marlin Company referred to their .22 calibre box magazines as clips for years. Yes, it is important to know the difference, and if it makes you happy, then always use the technically correct term but let us not get in a big snit if someone calls a magazine a clip. It is sort of similar to the terminology for the 45 Colt Cartridge which is often called the 45 Long Colt. This latter term is technically incorrect but it conveys the exact cartridge to most people and differentiates from the 45 ACP. So, no harm, no foul.
 
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Except that, that is not true at all. The first ones were from either a internal or detachable magazine and that's the way it's always been. Go back to the old Mausers and you can see that.

Clips feed magazines, internal or detachable. Just because a company uses incorrect terminology does not make it correct.
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And just because someone on the internet says the company is wrong, does not make that true, either.
 
I think there's 4 manufacturers listed in this thread so far that use the term clip. And no one even asked for a list yet.


Apparently, some in this thread believe those 4 firearms manufacturers are all "ignorant".


Riiiiiiiiight.......



From the OP

I've heard that's an anti-gun term when used vs magazine. Can someone explain to me the origin of why it's considered anti-gun?
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I would venture to say that the origin stems from some trying to prove that they are more pro-guns (notice that I didn't say "more pro 2A") than someone else.
 
The point I am trying to make

is about communication...I did not mean to say that Marlin Company was correct. I am trying to say that if words communicate enough information for the conversation at hand then...that is sufficient. It is sort of like the fact that the word "ain't" is incorrect. Well, even if it is incorrect, when someone uses it in writing or conversation we all know what it means and the idea is conveyed. Ain't I right on that?
 
Even the late Charles Askins, definitely a gun and gunfighting expert, would write things like "But there's them as likes lots of ca'tridges in the clip." I wonder how many people tried to correct him. ;)
 
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I just cant understand why some people get
worked up over this.

I prefer CLIP like my father before me.

Now I have to order a clip for my soon to arrive 1911.

Jimmy
 
I used to be on the side that preferred magazine but now can accept clip although I still use magazine almost 100% when referring to one.
 
If it clips (or attaches) into or onto the gun, I sometimes call a magazine a clip. It's shorter than saying a clip magazine. You can call it a box magazine until it looks like a banana and then you have to use some other word. I don't believe I've ever heard the phrase "banana magazine." Tube fed guns have a tube magazine, so there have to be words used to differentiate.
 
I am on the side of being relaxed

about this and not being so uptight and perfectionistic about, and I might say, being completely humorless about it. For heaven's sake..this is not boot camp. I just hate it when I say something like "45 Long Colt" on a forum and somebody has to point out that the term is incorrect. How rude and presumptuous.
 
I've never seen the whole "clip vs. magazine" thing as being a political deal.

Rather, popular culture, and most people you talk to will colloquially refer to a box magazine as a "clip."

As a result, gun geek pedants with nothing better to do have grabbed onto the whole "clip vs. magazine" thing as a way to flaunt their supposedly superior gun knowledge.

I'll admit to a minor twinge of annoyance when hearing someone use the term "clip," but I just can't work up enough of a lather to really care. It's not like using the term "clip" somehow makes it harder to communicate, and, frankly, I'm much more concerned with other people following basic safety protocols than I am with whether or not they use a widely-accepted semi-slang term for a common piece of shooting gear.
 
Clip Vs. Magazine

If one of my worries in life is which term to use, or will i offend someone with either term. Then i would say the Lord has blessed me with a pretty good life.
 
I really don't care if I offend someone on the internet who thinks he is smarter than me because he calls a magazine a magazine instead of a clip. I especially like when they tell us that the company who developed and made the item doesn't know what they made. It's even funnier when you consider they were probably making them before the expert was born.

Even the dictionary must be wrong. I guess everyone is wrong except those who "know" the true definition.

Definition of CLIP

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clip

1: any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook


2: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also: a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

3: a piece of jewelry held in position by a clip

I call a magazine a magazine and a clip, a clip but some folks..... really?
 
If you think clip v. magazine is bad, wait'll you hear the debate between gigabyte being pronounced as Gig-a-bite or Jig-a-bit and how many Gigs or Jigs of data your hard-drive is.
 
larryh1108 said:
I really don't care if I offend someone on the internet who thinks he is smarter than me because he calls a magazine a magazine instead of a clip. I especially like when they tell us that the company who developed and made the item doesn't know what they made. It's even funnier when you consider they were probably making them before the expert was born.

Even the dictionary must be wrong. I guess everyone is wrong except those who "know" the true definition.

Definition of CLIP

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clip

1: any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook


2: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also: a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

3: a piece of jewelry held in position by a clip

I call a magazine a magazine and a clip, a clip but some folks..... really?
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I think you are taking a bit too much offense and taking this personally for no good reason.

But, if you want to be technically correct, it isn't about intelligence or smarts, it's about knowledge and awareness. :)
 
I think you are taking a bit too much offense and taking this personally for no good reason.
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Offense and personally? Lol, I find it funny watching those in the know falling out of their chairs whenever this comes up (and that is a lot). It is very amusing.

Language is a way of communicating. People who speak English as a second language often use the wrong word or phrases because words sound the same and are spelled different or are spelled the same and mean different things, etc.

Language is used to convey a point or message. If someone says they bought a new clip for their 1911, every one of us knows what he means. Then you'll get the guys who get bent because he didn't say M1911A1 because, as we all know, there was a M1911 pre A1. Of course, they are far and few between but the guys in the know have to get bothered by it. Then we move to calling a M1911A1 with an external extractor a 1911 and these same guys get all bent because it isn't a M1911A1 because of the external extractor. Tell that to S&W and Sig and the others who label them a 1911. Of course, these same purists have their M1911A1s modified with front grip stippling or mag wells and night sights but tell them it's no longer a M1911A1 and they will disagree because it's theirs.

I mean, if this bends them out of shape, what does real life do to these guys? Me? I find it amusing. One of the funny things that goes on these boards to help pass the time in the dead of winter.
 
STOP! What? Twice in one week? That's gotta be some kind of record.

This has got to be nearly the single most daft and pointless thing we routinely beat each other up over.

Yeah, if you don't know any better, call 'em all clips. If you must have everyone know that YOU are "in the know" make sure you call them all magazines. If you know enough to know that we all know what you're talking about and that the folks who MAKE them and OWN THE FLIPPING PATENTS ON THEM have varying terms for them? Call them whatever you like. You can call them 'Susan' if it makes you 'appy.

Just QUIT arguing about it.
 
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