question for DIY holster folks

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Ukraine Train

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I just finished my second holster and it came out a little looser than I'd like. The leather is formed pretty well so the gun "snaps" in but once it's in it moves around a bit. Are there any tricks to make the leather tighten up? I was thinking of maybe adding stitching along the top of the slide as a last resort.
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Try double rows around top and bottom -- make it so tight you have to struggle to get the gun in. It will look like you intended double rows all along.:p

I like to use alcohol to bone the leather to the gun, and then heat Sno Seal or a similar waterproofing wax and work that into the inside surface of the leather after boning. This will protect the gun, prevent sweat-through, and make break-in a bit easier.
 
By double rows you mean make new holes next to the ones that are already there, right? Not just run another stitch through the existing holes? I also use alcohol, dries much quicker. I may have to resoak and flatten the leather out again to add another row of stitching, though. I use edge-kote for the inside, it doesn't work too bad.
 
Ukraine Train said:
By double rows you mean make new holes next to the ones that are already there, right? Not just run another stitch through the existing holes? I also use alcohol, dries much quicker. I may have to resoak and flatten the leather out again to add another row of stitching, though. I use edge-kote for the inside, it doesn't work too bad.

Right -- make another row of holes parallel to the existing rows. From the picture I can't tell how loose the holster is, but it appears that a double row would make it very tight.

Are you using a welt (a piece of leather between inner and outer surfaces of the holster)? If push comes to shove, you can adjust fit by adding or removing a welt.
 
I'd consider making these for money but I stitch by hand and it takes a looong time. For me to make them worth my while I'd have to charge a lot more than the higher volume guys who I assume use sewing machines. Their quality is better too, I'm just a newbie lol.
 
Just out of curiosity cause I have been interested in making one-

What is used for the stiching?

And jsut how do you get the leather to form fit (sorry don't know the technicle term) like that?

EDIT- Also are there any websites that offer a breakdown of how to make one?
 
Ukraine Train said:
I'd consider making these for money but I stitch by hand and it takes a looong time. For me to make them worth my while I'd have to charge a lot more than the higher volume guys who I assume use sewing machines. Their quality is better too, I'm just a newbie lol.

So does this mean your not going to make me a holster?:D :neener:
 
Lupinus said:
Just out of curiosity cause I have been interested in making one-

What is used for the stiching?

And jsut how do you get the leather to form fit (sorry don't know the technicle term) like that?

EDIT- Also are there any websites that offer a breakdown of how to make one?
Check out this thread I made back when I got into leatherwork, a lot of good tips there. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=133426 Unfortunately the server where I host my pictures is down right now, I have step by step pictures there of my first holster. Hopefully it'll be back up soon. The thread I use is waxed, I'm not sure what the thread itself is actually made of but it's pretty tough. To form the leather, after sewing the two halves together you soak them in water or alcohol (dries much quicker), then put a little oil on the outside of your gun, wrap it in in some plastic bags, stick it in the holster then work the leather around the gun. I use the handle of a butter knife.
 
I only dye the outside. The inside and the edges are coated with Edge Kote which is waterproof and won't stain. When applying it to edges I give it a good rubbing which smoothes them out and gives them a nice finish.
 
Warning, a joke is ahead.

I always use duct tape. Strapped to my back. Just like in the Die Hard movies.

By the way, looks good. No way I can ever make anything like that.
 
The reason the holster was a little too loose was, you're wrapping the gun in plastic when you mould it.

You should NOT do this, since the thin layer of plastic is JUST enough to make a loose fit.

The right way is to "case" the leather by soaking in water or alcohol, then let the leather stand until it returns to it's natural color, but still feels slightly cool.

MOST people try to mould while the leather is still too damp.

When you think the leather is about right, insert the BARE gun into the holster and mould it to your satisfaction.

Slide the gun out, which will cause the holster to open up slightly, then press the leather gently back into the right shape and allow to dry.

If you had the leather cased to the proper condition, the gun will be bone dry.
All you'll need to do is wipe it down with a little lube on a patch.

More suggestions:
Investing in a few more tools will boost the appearance and quality greatly.
You can buy these tools at Tandy leather either in a local store, or online.

An edge beveler tool. #3941-03--Size 3.
This cuts a bevel on both sides of an edge to give a smooth, rounded edge.

An edge "slicker". #8122-00
This is a small wooden or plastic wheel with a groove around it.
Use a fine round file to open up part of the groove to a larger groove that will fit thicker leather.
This tool is used to put a shiny, slick finish on the edges of the leather, which gives it a much more finished appearance.

Gum Tragacanth. #2264-01
This is a slimy substance that's applied to the raw edges, then the circle slicker is briskly rubbed over the edges to give it a hard finish.
After this you can either dye the edge a darker color, or apply a wax and buff with a coarse piece of canvas to give the edges a final finish.

A edge creaser. #8072-00
This tool comes in different sizes or an adjustable model, or you can make your own.
This tool is used to impress a shallow line or border around the top edge of the holster and on the sides of the snap straps.
This also gives a much more professional, finished appearance.

A stitching groover. #8074-00
This adjustable tool cuts a shallow line in areas where you're going to stitch.
This makes a much more even stitch line, AND buries the stitching below the surface to prevent wear.
In addition, the stitching has a more even appearance.

A stitching spacer wheel. #8079-05--Size 5
This is a spur-like wheel that actually marks the location of stitch holes when you run it down the groove cut by the grooving tool.
This comes in stitches per inch, but I find the #5 or 5 stitches per inch the most useful.

A diamond awl. There are several running from $15. to $25.
This is the tool used to actually punch the stitching holes.
The diamond shape's edge is aligned with the stitching groove, and this causes the stitching to pull INTO the leather instead toward the edge.

Another option for thinner, single layer stitching are drive-type Diamond hole punches.
These punch from one to 4 stitching holes at a time.
Single, #8065-00.
4 prong, 1/8" spacing, #8067-00

GOOD stitching cord, waxed or you can wax it with beeswax.
This is rather hard to find, but it looks much better than the waxed Nyltex cord you're using.
That cord is flat, and uneven.
Good stitching cord is round and very even, usually white.
There are several options. I'd ask Tandy for a small sample of each of these, and you can decide which you like:
White polyester cord, #3959-04 or 3959-05.
Sewing Awl Thread, #1205-03.
Nylon thread, #56275-003.

Tandy also sell cakes of beeswax so you can wax the cord, if necessary.

Egg-eyed, blunt tip stitching needles.
Also know as harness needles.
Size 000, Large is the most used, #1192-13

A stitching book. #61944-00 or #61906-00
This shows how to use the above tools and get much better looking stitching.
HOW you orientate the diamond awl and lay out the stitching determines how good it looks, and how strong it is.

Last a professional leather finish to seal the dye in, protect from moisture, and give it a shine.
For this, many pro's use Fiebing's Resolene. #2270-01.
This is an acrylic finish that looks like milk but drys to a clear, hard finish.
This is probably the best all-round finish because it doesn't crack, chip, or peel off like most of the others.
You can apply it with a damp cloth or a spray gun, then force dry it with a hair dryer.

These tools and material will make your projects look like a professional job.

You're already most of the way there, all you need are a few tools, learn how to use them, and a little practice.
 
Ukraine Train, you deserve an A+ on that project!
Even though YOU can notice where you made some mistakes, the overall appearance looks great!

Do some more projects, and keep us posted. Who knows, you just might find some buyers!

There was a policeman who made holsters and other leather police equipment in his garage. A few of his fellow officers asked if he would custom make some holsters for them, too. He eventually had to quit his police job, for he was so swamped with orders or custom-made holsters! That man was John Bianchi, who is now a multi-millionaire....and it all started in his garage on a part-time basis!
 
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