I recently bought a gun and plan on getting a concealed handgun license, I also plan on moving back to NYC in the next few years. What would I have to do to take my guns as I dont want to sell of my guns but at the same time i dont want to be arrested. I know gettin a carry license in NYC is virtually impossible but I do wish to have one at home and be able to go to the range. Come in here experts and speak on this topic?
Question moving from Texas to NYC
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MilsurpShooter
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Good luck
http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/nypd/html/dclm/ldinfo.html
HANDGUN LICENSING INFORMATION
The License Division receives many inquiries from the public regarding the procedures involved in obtaining a permit for a handgun. Because of the serious safety concerns inherent in the possession of handguns, it is recommended that the decision to obtain a handgun license be carefully considered and that a licensee receives training in the safety and use of a handgun. Licensees must become familiar with all laws and regulations relating to handgun ownership. The following sections provide information in order to assist persons who wish to apply for a handgun license. They do not in any way imply that a license application will be approved.
The following pages have been prepared as a guide to assist you in deciding which type of handgun license may be appropriate for you. If you decide to apply for a license you must APPEAR IN PERSON at the License Division with the completed application, the documents specified in the application instructions, the application fee, and the fingerprint fee. These are the only fees you are required to pay to have your application processed. The fees must be in the form of two U.S. POSTAL OR BANK-DRAWN MONEY ORDERS, one made payable to the New York City Police Department, and the other to the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services. CASH IS NOT ACCEPTED. Make sure that you save the receipt for your application fee given to you by the cashier. This receipt is proof of payment and contains your application number, which is required for any subsequent inquiries regarding the status of your application.
If you intend to apply for a license related to your employment, profession, or business, you may ask to speak to an application reviewer who will screen your application and documents, and will assist you in determining the type of license you appear to be eligible for. Whether or not you choose to have your application screened by a reviewer, you will have to provide the documentation specified in the application instructions at the time of application submission.
After you file your application you will be contacted for an interview and may be required to submit additional documentation. All documents will be examined and evaluated, and all factors will be considered in making the determination as to your qualification for an employment, profession, or business related license.
Regardless of the reviewer's recommendation, you may apply for whichever type of license you choose. The screening process is merely an attempt to assist you, and does not affect the final decision regarding your application. "You must be twenty-one (21) years of age to apply for a handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit."
TYPES OF LICENSES
PREMISES LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. It is issued for your RESIDENCE or BUSINESS. The Licensee may possess a handgun ONLY on the premises of the address indicated on the front of the license. Licensees may also transport their handguns and ammunition in SEPARATE LOCKED CONTAINERS, DIRECTLY to and from an authorized range, or hunting location. HANDGUNS MUST BE UNLOADED WHEN TRANSPORTING.
CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: Is valid for the business name, address, and handguns listed on the front of the license. It is not transferable to any other person, business, occupation, or address, without the written approval of the commanding officer, license division.
LIMITED CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. The licensee may only carry handguns indicated on the license in accordance with the specific limitations listed thereon. At all other times the handgun may be possessed only within the confines of the business address listed on the front of the license.
SPECIAL CARRY LICENSE: Is valid for the business name, address and handguns listed on the front of this license, only while the licensee has in his possession a valid basic county license issued according to the provisions of article 400 of the N.Y.S. Penal law. Upon the revocation, suspension, or cancellation of the basic license, the special license is rendered void and must be immediately returned to the license division.
CARRY GUARD LICENSE: (SECURITY GUARDS, ETC.) Applications for this type of license must be made with the documentation provided by a company's "Gun Custodian." It is issued only for the handgun listed on the license. The handgun may be carried only while the licensee is actively engaged in employment for the company whose name appears on the license, and/or while licensee is in transit directly to or from residence and place of employment. At all other times the handgun must be stored unloaded in a locked container, at either the address on the license, or at the employee's legal residence (within the State of New York).
HANDGUN LICENSE CONSULTING FIRMS
It has come to the attention of the License Division that certain consulting firms have advised licensees that renewals are no longer automatic and that the License Division has refused to renew hundreds of licensees. This is untrue. License renewals continue to be routinely processed and approved in the overwhelming majority of cases. Only in an extremely small number of cases in which the application indicates a substantial change in circumstances, e.g., different business, does the License Division require additional information in order to determine continued qualification for a carry permit. In such cases licenses are routinely extended for those individuals who need time to provide additional information. This is not the first time that the department has received complaints concerning misrepresentations and misleading information proffered by various persons or associations who indicate that they can assist applicants in receiving a handgun license or can expedite the process. These firms cannot obtain a handgun license or renewal for you if you do not qualify, nor can they expedite your application. The application instructions are self-explanatory, and the License Division screening and information process will provide assistance to applicants and licensees. If you have any questions, contact the License Division and someone will assist you.
INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL HANDGUN LICENSE APPLICANTS
The application form MUST be typewritten and signed by you, and your signature must be notarized. Only the original application form will be accepted. DO NOT SEND A PHOTOCOPY. The application form must be completely filled out and presented by you personally at the License Division. At the time you submit your application, you must furnish the items listed below that are applicable to you. All documents, certificates, licenses, etc., must be submitted in the original. (A copy certified by the issuing agency as true and complete is also acceptable). In addition, a legible photocopy of each item submitted must accompany the original or certified copy. Originals and certified copies will be returned. Your application will not be accepted without the required documents.
1. Photographs. Two (2) color photographs of you taken within the past thirty (30) days are required. They should measure 1½ x 1½ inches and show you from the chest up. The wearing of any article of clothing or adornment that obscures identification is not permitted.
2.Birth Certificate. In lieu of your birth certificate, some other proof of your birth date, e.g., a military record, U.S. passport or baptismal certificate must be submitted. "You must be twenty-one (21) years of age to apply for a handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit."
3.Proof of Citizenship/Alien Registration. If you were born outside the United States, you must submit your naturalization papers or evidence of citizenship if derived from your parents. All other applicants born outside the United States must submit their Alien Registration Card. If you have lived in this country less than 7 years you must submit a good conduct certificate, or equivalent, from your country of origin and two (2) letters of reference that certify to your good character.
4.Military Discharge. . If you served in the armed forces of the United States, you must submit your separation papers (DD 214) and your discharge.
5.Proof of Residence. You must submit proof of your present address. Proof may consist of, but is not limited to, a real estate tax bill, ownership shares in a cooperative or condominium, or a lease. You may also be requested to supply further documentation i.e., a New York State Driver's License, a New York State Income Tax Return, or a current utility bill.
6.Arrest Information. . . If you were ever arrested, indicted or summonsed for any reason, other than a traffic infraction, you must answer "Yes" to question #23 on the handgun license application and submit a certificate of disposition showing the offense and disposition. Also, you must submit a detailed, notarized statement describing the circumstances surrounding each arrest or summons. YOU MUST DO THIS EVEN IF: the case was dismissed, the record was sealed or the case was nullified by operation of law. The New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services will report to us every instance involving the criminal prosecution of an applicant. DO NOT rely on anyone's representation that you need not list a previous arrest or summons.
If you were ever convicted or pled guilty to a felony offense or a serious offense, as defined in Penal Law Section 265.00(17), an original Certificate of Relief of Disabilities, signed by a judge, must be submitted. The Certificate must contain a statement granting you firearm privileges under Penal Law Articles 265 and 400.
6a. Order of Protection. If you have ever had an Order of Protection issued against you, or issued on your behalf against anyone, you must list the following information: Court of Issuance, Date of Issuance, Complainant's name, address and phone number, Complainant's relationship to you, and reason for issuance of Order of Protection.
7.Proof of Business Ownership. . If you are making application for a carry or premises license for use in connection with a business, you must submit proof of ownership for that business. Such proof must clearly state the names of the owner(s), or, if a corporation, the names of the corporate officers. A Corporation must submit its corporate book to include filing receipt, certificate of incorporation and minutes of the corporate meeting reflecting current corporate officers; others must provide their business certificate or partnership agreement, whichever is applicable. If the business requires a license or permit from any government agency, e.g., alcohol or firearms sales, gunsmith, private investigation and guard agencies, you must submit the license or permit or a certified copy thereof. You must also submit proof of address for the business. Proof may consist of a utility bill, not more than 60 days old, in the name of the business or a lease in the name of the business.
8.Letter of Necessity. All applicants for a carry license and those seeking a premises license for use in connection with their employment MUST complete the Letter of Necessity found on page 3 of the application. NO SUBSTITUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED.
FEES
$340.00 - Made payable to the New York City Police Department, must be paid by certified check or money order.
$99.00 - Made payable to the New York City Police Department, must be paid by certified check or money order.
The above fees must be paid separately.
ALL FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
If you have any questions concerning your application, please call (646) 610-5560. Applications must submitted in person at the License Division, Room 110, Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.
http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/nypd/html/dclm/ldinfo.html
HANDGUN LICENSING INFORMATION
The License Division receives many inquiries from the public regarding the procedures involved in obtaining a permit for a handgun. Because of the serious safety concerns inherent in the possession of handguns, it is recommended that the decision to obtain a handgun license be carefully considered and that a licensee receives training in the safety and use of a handgun. Licensees must become familiar with all laws and regulations relating to handgun ownership. The following sections provide information in order to assist persons who wish to apply for a handgun license. They do not in any way imply that a license application will be approved.
The following pages have been prepared as a guide to assist you in deciding which type of handgun license may be appropriate for you. If you decide to apply for a license you must APPEAR IN PERSON at the License Division with the completed application, the documents specified in the application instructions, the application fee, and the fingerprint fee. These are the only fees you are required to pay to have your application processed. The fees must be in the form of two U.S. POSTAL OR BANK-DRAWN MONEY ORDERS, one made payable to the New York City Police Department, and the other to the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services. CASH IS NOT ACCEPTED. Make sure that you save the receipt for your application fee given to you by the cashier. This receipt is proof of payment and contains your application number, which is required for any subsequent inquiries regarding the status of your application.
If you intend to apply for a license related to your employment, profession, or business, you may ask to speak to an application reviewer who will screen your application and documents, and will assist you in determining the type of license you appear to be eligible for. Whether or not you choose to have your application screened by a reviewer, you will have to provide the documentation specified in the application instructions at the time of application submission.
After you file your application you will be contacted for an interview and may be required to submit additional documentation. All documents will be examined and evaluated, and all factors will be considered in making the determination as to your qualification for an employment, profession, or business related license.
Regardless of the reviewer's recommendation, you may apply for whichever type of license you choose. The screening process is merely an attempt to assist you, and does not affect the final decision regarding your application. "You must be twenty-one (21) years of age to apply for a handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit."
TYPES OF LICENSES
PREMISES LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. It is issued for your RESIDENCE or BUSINESS. The Licensee may possess a handgun ONLY on the premises of the address indicated on the front of the license. Licensees may also transport their handguns and ammunition in SEPARATE LOCKED CONTAINERS, DIRECTLY to and from an authorized range, or hunting location. HANDGUNS MUST BE UNLOADED WHEN TRANSPORTING.
CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: Is valid for the business name, address, and handguns listed on the front of the license. It is not transferable to any other person, business, occupation, or address, without the written approval of the commanding officer, license division.
LIMITED CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. The licensee may only carry handguns indicated on the license in accordance with the specific limitations listed thereon. At all other times the handgun may be possessed only within the confines of the business address listed on the front of the license.
SPECIAL CARRY LICENSE: Is valid for the business name, address and handguns listed on the front of this license, only while the licensee has in his possession a valid basic county license issued according to the provisions of article 400 of the N.Y.S. Penal law. Upon the revocation, suspension, or cancellation of the basic license, the special license is rendered void and must be immediately returned to the license division.
CARRY GUARD LICENSE: (SECURITY GUARDS, ETC.) Applications for this type of license must be made with the documentation provided by a company's "Gun Custodian." It is issued only for the handgun listed on the license. The handgun may be carried only while the licensee is actively engaged in employment for the company whose name appears on the license, and/or while licensee is in transit directly to or from residence and place of employment. At all other times the handgun must be stored unloaded in a locked container, at either the address on the license, or at the employee's legal residence (within the State of New York).
HANDGUN LICENSE CONSULTING FIRMS
It has come to the attention of the License Division that certain consulting firms have advised licensees that renewals are no longer automatic and that the License Division has refused to renew hundreds of licensees. This is untrue. License renewals continue to be routinely processed and approved in the overwhelming majority of cases. Only in an extremely small number of cases in which the application indicates a substantial change in circumstances, e.g., different business, does the License Division require additional information in order to determine continued qualification for a carry permit. In such cases licenses are routinely extended for those individuals who need time to provide additional information. This is not the first time that the department has received complaints concerning misrepresentations and misleading information proffered by various persons or associations who indicate that they can assist applicants in receiving a handgun license or can expedite the process. These firms cannot obtain a handgun license or renewal for you if you do not qualify, nor can they expedite your application. The application instructions are self-explanatory, and the License Division screening and information process will provide assistance to applicants and licensees. If you have any questions, contact the License Division and someone will assist you.
INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL HANDGUN LICENSE APPLICANTS
The application form MUST be typewritten and signed by you, and your signature must be notarized. Only the original application form will be accepted. DO NOT SEND A PHOTOCOPY. The application form must be completely filled out and presented by you personally at the License Division. At the time you submit your application, you must furnish the items listed below that are applicable to you. All documents, certificates, licenses, etc., must be submitted in the original. (A copy certified by the issuing agency as true and complete is also acceptable). In addition, a legible photocopy of each item submitted must accompany the original or certified copy. Originals and certified copies will be returned. Your application will not be accepted without the required documents.
1. Photographs. Two (2) color photographs of you taken within the past thirty (30) days are required. They should measure 1½ x 1½ inches and show you from the chest up. The wearing of any article of clothing or adornment that obscures identification is not permitted.
2.Birth Certificate. In lieu of your birth certificate, some other proof of your birth date, e.g., a military record, U.S. passport or baptismal certificate must be submitted. "You must be twenty-one (21) years of age to apply for a handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit."
3.Proof of Citizenship/Alien Registration. If you were born outside the United States, you must submit your naturalization papers or evidence of citizenship if derived from your parents. All other applicants born outside the United States must submit their Alien Registration Card. If you have lived in this country less than 7 years you must submit a good conduct certificate, or equivalent, from your country of origin and two (2) letters of reference that certify to your good character.
4.Military Discharge. . If you served in the armed forces of the United States, you must submit your separation papers (DD 214) and your discharge.
5.Proof of Residence. You must submit proof of your present address. Proof may consist of, but is not limited to, a real estate tax bill, ownership shares in a cooperative or condominium, or a lease. You may also be requested to supply further documentation i.e., a New York State Driver's License, a New York State Income Tax Return, or a current utility bill.
6.Arrest Information. . . If you were ever arrested, indicted or summonsed for any reason, other than a traffic infraction, you must answer "Yes" to question #23 on the handgun license application and submit a certificate of disposition showing the offense and disposition. Also, you must submit a detailed, notarized statement describing the circumstances surrounding each arrest or summons. YOU MUST DO THIS EVEN IF: the case was dismissed, the record was sealed or the case was nullified by operation of law. The New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services will report to us every instance involving the criminal prosecution of an applicant. DO NOT rely on anyone's representation that you need not list a previous arrest or summons.
If you were ever convicted or pled guilty to a felony offense or a serious offense, as defined in Penal Law Section 265.00(17), an original Certificate of Relief of Disabilities, signed by a judge, must be submitted. The Certificate must contain a statement granting you firearm privileges under Penal Law Articles 265 and 400.
6a. Order of Protection. If you have ever had an Order of Protection issued against you, or issued on your behalf against anyone, you must list the following information: Court of Issuance, Date of Issuance, Complainant's name, address and phone number, Complainant's relationship to you, and reason for issuance of Order of Protection.
7.Proof of Business Ownership. . If you are making application for a carry or premises license for use in connection with a business, you must submit proof of ownership for that business. Such proof must clearly state the names of the owner(s), or, if a corporation, the names of the corporate officers. A Corporation must submit its corporate book to include filing receipt, certificate of incorporation and minutes of the corporate meeting reflecting current corporate officers; others must provide their business certificate or partnership agreement, whichever is applicable. If the business requires a license or permit from any government agency, e.g., alcohol or firearms sales, gunsmith, private investigation and guard agencies, you must submit the license or permit or a certified copy thereof. You must also submit proof of address for the business. Proof may consist of a utility bill, not more than 60 days old, in the name of the business or a lease in the name of the business.
8.Letter of Necessity. All applicants for a carry license and those seeking a premises license for use in connection with their employment MUST complete the Letter of Necessity found on page 3 of the application. NO SUBSTITUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED.
FEES
$340.00 - Made payable to the New York City Police Department, must be paid by certified check or money order.
$99.00 - Made payable to the New York City Police Department, must be paid by certified check or money order.
The above fees must be paid separately.
ALL FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
If you have any questions concerning your application, please call (646) 610-5560. Applications must submitted in person at the License Division, Room 110, Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.
larry starling
Member
Boy are you about to make a mistake!
30 cal slob
Member
Consider neighboring Connecticut, only 45 minutes away from midtown NYC.
+ You can move to CT with your handgun under a personal property exemption. One you've moved, don't take it out of the home until you get your CT pistol permit (otherwise you'll be committing a felony).
+ Get your CT pistol permit, which a permit to possess as well an unrestricted carry license. Technically a "may-issue" state, but for all intents and purposes CT is "shall-issue." We even have fewer off-limits places than TX does!
CT could always use a few more pro-gun folk!
+ You can move to CT with your handgun under a personal property exemption. One you've moved, don't take it out of the home until you get your CT pistol permit (otherwise you'll be committing a felony).
+ Get your CT pistol permit, which a permit to possess as well an unrestricted carry license. Technically a "may-issue" state, but for all intents and purposes CT is "shall-issue." We even have fewer off-limits places than TX does!
CT could always use a few more pro-gun folk!
$340.00 + $99.00 - Made payable to the New York City Police Department
ALL FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE....
Man, just send the fees to me, save yourself all the other time/trouble/expense you will go through. I will send you a letter of denial and I will buy another gun with the money, and send you pictures of me shooting/enjoying it. Everyone gets what they want. ++ Except you. Get used to it in NYC.
But, good luck if you try.
ALL FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE....
Man, just send the fees to me, save yourself all the other time/trouble/expense you will go through. I will send you a letter of denial and I will buy another gun with the money, and send you pictures of me shooting/enjoying it. Everyone gets what they want. ++ Except you. Get used to it in NYC.
But, good luck if you try.
Deanimator
Member
Most of my family lives in Chicago. I visit them once a year. That's more than enough, and TOO much contact with Illinois.
I can't imagine moving TO a place where I'd have a much greater chance of being shot by private sector criminals or the police, AND where I'd have virtually no meaningful right to self-defense at all.
I've never been to Texas. I've been to NYC.
I'd have to go with Texas.
Of course I'm not sure I'd pick NYC over Teheran or Pyongyang.
Don't move
If you do, sell all pistols first, unless jail appeals to you.
Forget about the carry permit, unless you are wealthy, and famous.
Don't move.
NY is a "may issue state", but NYC does not pay attention to that.
See above comments when in doubt.
Signed,
former ny'er
If you do, sell all pistols first, unless jail appeals to you.
Forget about the carry permit, unless you are wealthy, and famous.
Don't move.
NY is a "may issue state", but NYC does not pay attention to that.
See above comments when in doubt.
Signed,
former ny'er
LeonCarr
Member
Don't move to NYC...stay in the United States
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Princi
Member
The closest I got to NYC was 9 years that I lived in Poughkeepsie. I moved to DFW metroplex 18 years ago, and although I still own two houses in Watertown, I'd never move back to NY. Well maybe I would if I had a stroke and my memory was completely gone.
Let's see: Dallas - no city income taxes; NYC city income taxes.
Texas - no state income taxes; NY high state income taxes.
Gun laws - already addressed by other posts to this thread.
My suggestion: move your family to Texas.
Let's see: Dallas - no city income taxes; NYC city income taxes.
Texas - no state income taxes; NY high state income taxes.
Gun laws - already addressed by other posts to this thread.
My suggestion: move your family to Texas.
K-Romulus
Member
One other thing:
To bring your pistols with you move to NYC, you must FIRST get the license (good for only THREE years for up to five pistols), and THEN have your pistols transfered to a NYS FFL so they can do the other NYC/NYS paperwork for the transfer.
Edited for one more thing:
NYC has a local AWB and magazine capacity restriction. I think the mag limit is 10, but may actually be lower.
To bring your pistols with you move to NYC, you must FIRST get the license (good for only THREE years for up to five pistols), and THEN have your pistols transfered to a NYS FFL so they can do the other NYC/NYS paperwork for the transfer.
Edited for one more thing:
NYC has a local AWB and magazine capacity restriction. I think the mag limit is 10, but may actually be lower.
kcmarine
Member
Move your family to Texas. If you love them, you will give them a taste of freedom.
I LIKE IT!
Member
Enjoy Hell!
K-Romulus
Member
Maybe try Virginia or PA?
I was sort-of in your boat, but lived in Texas from NYC for seven years (ages 9-16) before moving back to NYC.
Once I escaped through the USMC, my decision when getting out was to figure out where to live. I chose VA because my Mom lived there now, but all family was still in NYC. Northern VA was close enough to NY, but is still "America."
PA could be an option, though a long commute to the City, but people are doing it.
I was sort-of in your boat, but lived in Texas from NYC for seven years (ages 9-16) before moving back to NYC.
Once I escaped through the USMC, my decision when getting out was to figure out where to live. I chose VA because my Mom lived there now, but all family was still in NYC. Northern VA was close enough to NY, but is still "America."
PA could be an option, though a long commute to the City, but people are doing it.
MilsurpShooter
Member
Look into Putnam or Dutchess counties. Westchester and below suck for guns. From my house, in Westchester, it's about a 40 minute train ride to Grand Central
romma
Member
Um, I am going to go against the tide here... Go to NY and make some waves by getting active grass roots wise, and make a difference. It may not work in your lifetime, but if you can convert a few Antis', and they can, and so forth and so on, by the time society collapses completely, maybe NY will be pro-gun!
Who knows?
Who knows?
jflores, I was born and raised in NYC too... Staten Island, to be exact. I left in 2005 and live in rural Nebraska. I miss my family (sometimes), but mostly pizza and cannolis. None of my friends from NYC own their own home, let alone real estate. Your dollar goes a LOT farther outside of major metro areas. The fact I can enjoy liberty is icing on the cake!
yhtomit
Member
Yes -- question it very strongly!
Having lived in both places, I know I'd be pleased to move back to Texas, and don't plan on living again in NYC. And I hate the *heat* of Texas (it's got plenty) but I'd rather be warm than put up with the laws and taxes of NYC.
If you're certain that the move back is right (family is certainly a strong pull, and a big reason I'm in PA right now), then I wouldn't spend the money on a Texas CHL, or expect to have the guns in NY at all. Sell them to a friend who's into guns, would be my advice.
And like romma says above, if you must move back, alert at least a few people as to why you can't enjoy Constitutionally protected liberties in one of (in most ways) the greatest cities on the planet. Great food, mostly nice people despite the reputation otherwise, intense beauty in all kinds of unexpected places. I love to visit -- but a short time living there was enough for now. If I am ever Seinfeld-rich, I'll be sure to have a sm. apartment there for visits.
timothy
I've been in NYC for 25 years, I'm leaving now and heading down south and there's nothing that would make me move back. All I can say is really think about it. Oh and as far as your guns go, it's probably better to just sell them now, just getting a NYC target permit is going to take 6 months to a year. If you also want to keep one loading for home defense then thats a premise permit, another 6 to 12 month wait and another 340 dollars (you can't keep your gun loaded for home defense on a target permit and you can only go to the range twice a year with a premise permit). I do however, wish you good luck with what ever you decide to do.
It is not much better, but...
Live in NJ and commute. That’s what I do and it’s not too bad. I am assuming that you are moving for work.
I live in Princeton and have a 45-50 minute commute. My friends that live in Brooklyn have a 40 minute commute, but I pay less than one quarter of the rent that they do and my apartment is twice the size and is nice and is in a nice neighborhood. Plus, I could keep my car and have lots of parking. I hate NJ, but it is no where near as bad (for firearms ownership) as NYC. You should really look into living in NJ or CT.
Live in NJ and commute. That’s what I do and it’s not too bad. I am assuming that you are moving for work.
I live in Princeton and have a 45-50 minute commute. My friends that live in Brooklyn have a 40 minute commute, but I pay less than one quarter of the rent that they do and my apartment is twice the size and is nice and is in a nice neighborhood. Plus, I could keep my car and have lots of parking. I hate NJ, but it is no where near as bad (for firearms ownership) as NYC. You should really look into living in NJ or CT.
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