Question on some wal-mart guns...please!

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after looking at the differant stores near me and wal-mart... I noticed that walmart sells the remingtons, savage, and others cheaper... are they cheaper guns? One walmart near me sells a remington 700 for $325? is this right? is it really a 700?
anyways I went to a close gun store and they have two guns I liked..

a rem 710 for #320 and a Tikka T3 lite(22 inch barrel) for around $600...

another gun shop nearby is about the same... remington 700 are around 6-700...

heres what I saw at walmart
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2685024
and this one
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4756263
and this one
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2685758(this one is the most expensive, but I like the accuracy guarantee)

what do you guys think?

are wal-mart guns even worth it????? cause I like wal-mart, and I figure it will be easy talking my wife into letting me get one when she is buying her something nice also:):)

what you think?

what should I look for on the gun when I buy it? does walmart hold up to warranties? do they lube the guns daily or weekly?

I love the gun prices but dont want to buy some pos rifle...

also I heard putting your hands on the barrel is bad for the gun? I know alot of people at wal-mart do this..any truth to this rumor?

The tikka t3 at the gun shop nearby is a 22 inch barrel, and the vanguard sporter is a 24 inch barrel, their prices are about the same.... are they both good rifles? I have heard the Tikka is the better of the two...?

thanks
 
FYI The 710 is very different that an 700 remington
yes walmart sells some great deals in some items just remember to compair like products. They are like big 5 here on the west coast of US. they under cut all others by moving volumes of guns
 
WalMart guns are just as good as guns from anywhere else. WalMart guns are not inferior nor are they guns that didnt meet specification, as many would have you believe.

WalMart DOES have some models of guns that are built specifically for them. With either longer barrels, different sights......boxed with scopes etc.

I own several WalMart guns, never had an issue....Im particularly fond of my Henry lever action .22lr from WalMart.
 
Yes, I do believe you did see right. RUN back to that WalMart and pick up that 700. I have seen them on clearance for that price at local Walmarts, and it is a SCREAMING deal. I got a well used ADL for a little over half of that, but 325 is a GREAT price for a new one. They are very solid and customizable rifles, I highly recommend them.
 
the purpose of Walmart, for gun mfgrs, is a place to get their entry level rifles, into the hands of somebody, Usually they are a package rifle, with scopes allready on them. It is a way for them to mass sell, and make a lower profit margin on each gun, just the way Wallyworld sells anything. In this, they also hope to sell you some ammo, and other products that the gun mfgrs make.
It also helps to build owner loyalty. There is nothing wrong with these guns at all, some of the most popular all time lines are sold through walmart, such as marlin and savage rimfires, and various shotguns, and lever guns.
I have bought many a wallyworld gun, and they are utilitarian, usually synth stock, so they are made to beat up, and accuracy is usually just fine, especially for hunting purposes. Occasionally they will sell some fine rifles, I have seen nice wetherby's there, and of course Howas, and there is nothing wrong with a Tikka at all. Sometimes they sell other products that are also above what you would expect; I saw a scope there, not under glass, but in the hard plastic package, that for about 80 dollars, looked to be quite nice, with some very good features, i do not remember the name of it now.
So I would have no probs buying from Wallyworld, if they have something that you want to get.
 
By the way, the new mossy's are turning out to be a very nice , and inexpensive rifle, And other mfgrs have stolen a few of their ideas, especially in the stock making area, to add to their own lines. Raptor arms was the origional mfgr of the ATR and 4x4 rifles, and when Mossy went looking for their new bolt gun products, they bought out Raptor arms, and their machinery and design specs, and Waalaa!!! We get the new Mossy rifles.
I especially like their superbantam line which is made for kids, but has a full set of inserts for the butt, to add as the child grows, but i would take one of these in 243 all day, and add all the inserts, and it is perfect for adults. This also comes with a scope, and usually you can get it on sale , for about 329 bucks.
 
A 700 from Wal-Mart is the same as a 700 from anywhere else. The stories about Wal-Mart selling "seconds" guns is a myth.

There's nothing wrong with touching the barrel of a gun as long as you wipe it off afterwards. Sweaty fingerprints can lead to rust. I wouldn't be too sure that the guns on display in Wal-Mart get TLC, so either ask for one in the box or just eyeball the gun for any visible rust.
 
Wal-Mart does have their own firearms. They buy in bulk. If you or anybody else bought a container load of Rem 700's at one time, you'd get a better price too. And be able to sell them for less as well. Mind you, Wal-mart is big enough to be able to tell their suppliers what they will pay. Sometimes at less than what it costs to make. Rubbermaid, for example, is gone because of Wal-mart.
 
The stories about Wal-Mart selling "seconds" guns is a myth.
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I think thats worth quoting. The idea that they are doesn't even make sense. Walmart is often a company's biggest seller of their product. If you were Remington you wouldn't want your biggest seller of 700's to be selling junk and giving all those customers a bad view of your product would you?

You're getting the same gun you'd get in a gun shop and saving some money doing it. In buying from walmart you're not giving money to the guy with the shop you sit at and fondle the rifles for a half hour each month, the guy you talk to for advice on a gun problem, or the guy who is going to be stocking that box of uncommon ammo you need. The place you're giving money to likely won't have a knowledgable person behind the counter (if you don't have to spend 10 minutes just trying to get someone to the counter) and they'll escort you out of the store with your purchase like you have nuclear waste. You'll have to weigh out what you think is the right thing for you to do. I'd buy at walmart personally.
 
They are the same thing but most of the time like at my walmart they are like the 700's that dont have all the extras. Example i bought a rem 700 xcr which is not carried at walmart from a local gun shop and i actually saved like 200 on it compared to gander mountain and other shops. Walmart had the simpler stuff like the black synthectic guns. I do not believe i have ever even seen a gun in stainless there.
 
The stories about Wal-Mart selling "seconds" guns is a myth.
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In fact it's probably more the other way around. Wal Mart is known to be BRUTAL to their suppliers about things like defects per x amount etc. Returns and exchanges cost money, and Wally World is one of the best at squeezing every cent out of their business.
 
Most rifles at Wal-Mart are "no frills" rifles. There are a few exceptions, but that is certainly the case with the Rem 700 ADL. Matte finish barrel and action, ADL (blind box magazine), and the cheapest synthetic factory stock available (certainly no aluminum block bedding and not even pillar bedded). Now there is nothing wrong with this 700 ADL basic rifle, it will work for you, and there are many after market parts that you can replace and upgrade a little at a time as you get the resources to do so. You can even get a Savage or Mossberg with many of the frills on them for the same price, so that may be another avenue. Many will argue that the Savage and Mossbergs are a better rifle when PRICE comes into the factor. The Remington 700 is still my rifle of choice.

It is much better than the 710, which you sure do not want. 2 Reasons: 1. They are not customizable (except for maybe the stock), the barrel is pressed into the action and even the bolt cannot be disassembled. 2. They are discontinued and have been phased out by the 770, so no replacement parts.
Now there is one guy that claims that his 710 is the cream of the crop after much gunsmithing, but I bet if he was really honest he would have never bought the 710 and just got the 700 for a few bucks more.

Nothing wrong with Wal-Mart guns if you can forego most of the extras.
 
Walmart guns are fine. Just got a Remington 597 with Mossy oak stock for $158.

I probably wont ever buy from them again though. I had to wait 15 min. for the sporting goods manager to show up so i could start my paperwork. It took at LEAST 3 times longer for the guy to quadruple check it than any gunshop iv purchased from. When He was done with that, he called over the store manager to double check it again.

After an hour and 15 min. I finaly had my rifle....except the manager had it. It was finaly time to begin the "walk of shame" as the manager escorted me to the door. Who knows, i may have just gone crazy that day. And If i WAS crazy i would surely take the rifle out of the box and load it it up instead of just using the cocked and locked P-22 concealed on my belt *rolleyes*
 
After an hour and 15 min. I finaly had my rifle....except the manager had it. It was finaly time to begin the "walk of shame" as the manager escorted me to the door
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Try buying a gun at Cabelas, same procedure. You pay for the rifle, fill out the form, wait, wait some more.
Then you wait, then you wait for a manger to approve the waiting, then you get walked to the door.

That's not Wal Marts fault, that's the result of ATF laying so many traps and the liability of falling into one.
 
That's not Wal Marts fault, that's the result of ATF laying so many traps and the liability of falling into one.
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The thing is that the local non-chain gun shop seems to be able to get me out the door in 15 minutes from the time I get my money out. All this manager-approval stuff is not just the ATF. It's partly the fault of the big chain stores' bureaucracy micro-managing instead of hiring the people they need and trusting them to do their jobs right.

I have bought two guns from Wal-Mart because they had what I wanted at a great price. But the shenanigans they went through were like what it takes to launch a nuclear strike: multiple keys, double-sign-off, etc. I knew what I was getting into, so I didn't go ballistic or anything, but it does seem to me that there's a better way to do things.

I have never bought a gun from Cabela's so I don't know about them, but I have bought a few from Gander Mountain. They were slower than the local guys but way faster than Wal-Mart.
 
Haven't seen a problem with Wally world guns. I actually ended up buying my Henry Lever .22 from them when I turned 18. Been a great rifle and I actually managed to get it for $120 when everyone else wanted $180 lol. Most of the ones I've seen there now have been no frills basic models but still look good and function well.
 
wally world guns are fine in the quality deptment. besides, in my opinion modern guns are crap quality anyway. the reason wally world guns are cheaper, is many will lack small options and features. i know of some stories that point to lack of drilled and tapped holes, or lack of iron sites. where a gunshop bought one will have these features.
 
There are some visible differences on some models. The guys at our local shop can pick out a Wal-Mart 870 in less than 5 seconds. Doesn't mean that it won't work, just means that it's different. They will not take one on trade.

I buy very little from Wal-Mart any more. While my little personal protest will have zero effect on them, it makes me feel better. Now, if I could get a 700 for 1/2 price, I'd do it in a heartbeat. My satisfaction is that they're losing money. The scopes that I've seen there are typical of low end stuff.

When all you guys want gunsmith service or special order parts from your local shop and all you find is an empty store front, remember the money you saved. Wal-Mart pretty much rapes a local area or market segment, leaves the ashes, and moves on.
 
My Wal Mart 30-06 Weatherby

Old Sneaky here: Last year I happened to be parusing the gun counter @ my local (Florida City) Wal Mart and spied a Weatherby Vangard in '06 for $349.00 +tax which I snatched up. It was just what I had in mind, and came drilled & tapped and a nice recoil pad. Also had a signed 3 shot target SUB-MOA @ 100 yds. I bought some Weaver bases and Warne Q/R rings and put on a Sightron 4X16 AO mil-dot sight. A really nice rifle. At the range with hand-loads it shots as well as expected. I'm kind of trying to decide on a Thompson Center Encore Rifle and it's too bad that Wal Mart doesn't sell Thompson Center products so I wouldn't have to pay artificially inflated price at gun-dealers. The mark-up on guns is rediculous-- Try takin a really "Cherry" rifle or handgun in for a trade and see what you get for it. THANX--SEAKY
 
I have noticed at my Walmart that they sometimes have used/repaired/refurbished guns for sale. They are cased with the new ones and sometimes it is hard to tell, but I asked the clerk on one and he told me they had received several which had to be repaired by the mfg.
 
Price is a function of supply and demand. Buy a lot of guns and the price will be cheaper. If Walmart sells a savage model 10 for $50 cheaper than a gun store, don't be discouraged because its Walmart. If the gun says model 700, its a 700. If it says 710, its not a 700. If the price is lower and its what you want, confucious say: but it ;).
 
My neighbor and me bought Mossberg/Maverick 88 $159 at Walmart..great deal and shotgun. Very happy with ours.
 
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