Questions about the tazer.

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I hope this is in the right section. I have to admit, I'm not used to posting on a lot of forums, as my Ministry schedule doesn't give me a lot of free time, except late at night.

Anyway (Sorry, I'm kind of long-winded)

The basic question I have is this: Is it legal to tazer somebody in a private residence if you feel you might come to harm from another individual in the home? I live in Florida, but this question pertains to several states. . .Texas, Illinois, California, New Jersey, and North Dakota.

There's more to the question, but a basic beginning will be fine to start with.

Any help would be appreciated!

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I'm trying to find a way to counsel my bretheren to avoid using lethal force under any circumstances, but to still be able to protect themselves in their homes. There have been a variety of situations where the need has been seen. The insanity of this modern world we find ourselves in dictates a less cheek-turning, but still compassionate solution. Does anybody here have any experience with tazers and the legal ramifications of using a tazer in your own home to protect yourself from possible harm?

I have a Beretta 391 shotgun, but would prefer not dealing such devastation on other living souls if I can avoid it.
After all, it is not THEIR fault that they have turned from Jehova to do evil. They should not have to die for their foolishness.

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stoochmaster,

it is perfectly legal to have a tazer. Tazer International sells them all day long and you can get the x26 (police model) for $700-$900. Every individual has a legal right to defend/protect themselves from harm, from a law enforcement stand point, as long as the "harm" can be easily identified, and reasonable force was used to protect yourself by stopping the "harm" then everything is good, to put easily-- you cannot shoot someone in the head because they shoved you, but you can shoot someone in the head if they are attempting to shove you off a bridge. As for the tazer being used in your home for self defense that would be fine, you cannot discipline someone with it though that would be abuse but as long as someone is kicking, punching or about to put hands on you let them ride the "lightening" believe me it hurts real bad and a normal person will not want to ride again.
 
Legally speaking, many states have enacted "Castle Doctrine" in that a man's home is his castle, and he has no legal duty to flee from his home if someon enters that home to do him harm.

In that case, it is each individuals' choice as to what lengths they will go to to protect their or their families' lives. If someone has no desire to use possibly lethal force to defend their lives, it is best that they do not own a gun because they will lack the will to use it when needed, and it will not be a good thing to have.

A Taser is not "nonlethal"; it is less-lethal. There are many confirmed fatalities from Taser application. It is entirely possible that use of a Taser will kill. It is less likely than a firearm but still possible.

Jesus, I recall, told his disciples that if they did not have a sword, they should sell thier robes and buy one.
 
Tazer International swears they have won every lawsuit arguing that their Tazers have'nt killed anyone. FACT: the fatalities have been linked to other contributing factors e.g heart attacks, injuries from fall after tazer deployed etc.

law enforcement are being trained now to aim lower on the targets torso to stay away from the cardiothoric region
 
1) Tasers are not necessary "non lethal". Plenty of people have died after being tazed. Mitigating circumstances and pre-existing conditions not withstanding ... they are still DEAD.

2) With most tasers you get one shot. If you miss you're toast.

3) Legality will depend on the strength of the Castle Doctrine laws in a particular area, and the particulars of the specific incident. NO ONE can give you a broad brush one size fits all answer to your question.

4) And the reason YOU, or your family, should have to die for their foolishness is?



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A tazer does not make the cut as a home defense item. Having said that, if you're catering to your anti-gun parishioners, it beats a baseball bat!
 
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If someone has been allowed into your home and they become threatening, a tazer may be a reasonable solution to the problem of the combative guest.

If someone breaks into your home while you are there it is at least reasonable to assume your life and those of the other occupants are in danger and a lethal response is reasonable.

Tazer/PepperSpray for unwelcome guests, shotgun for intruders.
 
4) And the reason YOU, or your family, should have to die for their foolishness is?



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First, I said nothing about me or my family dying for foolishness. I stated that those who strive against Jehova and force others to take action against them and their chaos when they decide to cause harm do NOT deserve to die for their foolishness, unless Jehova commands that they do so.

Second, I'm glad to see that this forum has an official 'troll' sniffer. I'm sure the moderators appreciate your assistance.

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Thank you to those who gave serious replies. They are quite informative.

Now, to get a bit more specific, and I realize that I am not speaking to lawyers, but any insight or direction would be appreciated. I have been having a difficult time finding information on this subject, as it pertains to a number of different states and circumstances peculiar to our religious beliefs.

I don't want to proselytize here, I fully understand this is not a religious forum, but a BIT of information on our beliefs might be necessary to understand the underlying need for non-lethal home defense. . .

We are a faith that believes that women should firmly adhere to biblical principles of dress and behavior. That Jehova has given us guidelines and they must be followed. The problem comes when our missionaries bring the light of Truth to a man and he tells his wife that she must obey biblical commands concerning women or he will have no choice but to put her away in divorce and seek custody of their children, that they may be raised in a proper, Godly home without the demonic influence of improper dress or behavior on the part of the woman.

As you can imagine, this revelation often leads to a complete breakdown of common sense on the woman's part, and there have been several situations where my brothers have felt that they may come to harm or their lives have been in danger from the over-emotional reactions of throwing, hitting, knives, and so on.

These good men have no desire to cause permanent harm to come to those they formerly loved, despite their misguided opposition to the very laws of God, but still need a means to subdue these women during their time of insanity until the police can arrive.

The question here is, what are the legal issues in using a tazer on an unruly woman who is a resident of the home when she is causing harm or potentially causing harm?

I'm sorry for the length. I do tend to be long-winded.

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I just got an e-mail from one of my good brothers in South Carolina today, and he brought up a point I had not considered yet. . .

If the ungodly woman in question being tazered is pregnant, is there a chance that the charge could harm the child? One of the replies further up mentioned targeting the lower extremities, but even so, would the current travel to the innocent child within the womb?

I would hate to think that my recommendation that tazers be used on unruly women at the moment of truth (if needed, of course!) would cause an innocent to be harmed for the sins of the mother. God forbid.

Does anybody have any information or insight for me on this? Most of the discussions I have had with law enforcement regarding tazers have turned into rather rude interrogations into our faith and have produced very little information.

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