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30 waters, 257 roberts, some say 30.30, 300 savage.
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I know people hunt deer with SKS's, and I was wondering how 7.62x39 fit in compared to the calibers I most often hear about as "perfect" deer cartriges -- 30/30, .270, etc.
I have an AK, but I wouldn't want to hunt with it. But since I "stock" 7.62x39, the CZ 527 Carbine looks interesting...
I know people hunt deer with SKS's, and I was wondering how 7.62x39 fit in compared to the calibers I most often hear about as "perfect" deer cartriges -- 30/30, .270, etc.
I have an AK, but I wouldn't want to hunt with it. But since I "stock" 7.62x39, the CZ 527 Carbine looks interesting...
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My buddy, who shoots 03 Springers and M1 Garands in High Power matches, rates 7.62x54R as a bit hotter than 30-06, and he knows the -06 as well as anyone I know. 7.62x39 ballistically is almost identical to 30-30, and with its pointed bullets it quickly begins to beat the 30-30 as distance gets beyond 200 yds.
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What kind of ammo selection is there for that caliber? Isn't most of it steel cased russian ammo? I know Wolf has a thick copper jacket that is pretty horrible for expansion, not sure if it ever fragments (which you definitely don't want in something you plan to eat). I use soft points for hunting and recovered a bullet from a deer last season, nice mushrooming and retained weight.
That's a good looking rifle. If it's a shooter and they make ammo that'll work good then I'd say go for it!
That's a good looking rifle. If it's a shooter and they make ammo that'll work good then I'd say go for it!
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roughly equivalent to .30-30. Was never intended to be a powerhouse, merely effective out to 100 meters or so.
The case is a smallish case, but allows plenty of room to explore handloading and that is going to be the best and higest use of the thing IMHO. Another round that reminds me of this is the .35 Remington. Loaded to silly low pressure levels, it can be bettered handily with handloading. Ditto the short Russian.
The case is a smallish case, but allows plenty of room to explore handloading and that is going to be the best and higest use of the thing IMHO. Another round that reminds me of this is the .35 Remington. Loaded to silly low pressure levels, it can be bettered handily with handloading. Ditto the short Russian.
There's actually a pretty good range of American made soft point ammo in 7.62x39. There's also some hollow point around - I know I have some Wolf JHP.
Winchester Super X comes pretty highly recommended.
Winchester Super X comes pretty highly recommended.
This is the most common comparison. However, with equal weight bullets, the 7.62x39 will have a significantly lower velocity. However, in real world, practical terms (say as a short range "brush" gun for deer,) they're roughly equivalent in utility.
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However, with equal weight bullets, the 7.62x39 will have a significantly lower velocity.
Absolutely correct. The Short Russioan carries a 125-130 gr bullet at something like 2300-2500 fps. The .30-30 carries a 150 gr bullet at about 2200-2300 fps.
If the Russian were loaded with 150 grain bullets, there would b less room in the case and thus less powder. Lower velocities would be the result.
Again, it wasnt intended to be a powerhouse. Merely functional out to 100 meters, + or -
Absolutely correct. The Short Russioan carries a 125-130 gr bullet at something like 2300-2500 fps. The .30-30 carries a 150 gr bullet at about 2200-2300 fps.
If the Russian were loaded with 150 grain bullets, there would b less room in the case and thus less powder. Lower velocities would be the result.
Again, it wasnt intended to be a powerhouse. Merely functional out to 100 meters, + or -
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