Quickload reloading program - new powder data?

[jjohnson]

Hi, gents!

I've asked this before, but not really received the info I need. I use this program called Quickload by NECOS produts to calculate load data. The program's good, but the data files are old - they don't have, for instance, Hodgdon's Trail Boss, Promo, or TiteWad powders in it. Anybody done this and have a clue or two to share? Thanks!:banghead:

 

[esheato]

I have QuickLOAD also and have wondered the same thing.

I would assume to email NECOS about it and see what they say.

Ed

 

[Zak Smith]

NECO has a file for download which includes some new powders.

 

[jjohnson]

email NECO, and download file - not satisfied

Good idea on emailing them, but I've tried that a few times, and been met only with stunning silence. On the other hand, if you're trying to BUY something from them, no problem getting an answer. I did download the 'new' powder file, but it's out of date by a few years near as I can tell, so I figured I'd try to take matters into my own hands.

 

[Clark]

There are 173 powders, 765 calibers in my Quickload.

I am not going to count the bullets, but there are 85 bullets with .429" diameter and 357 bullets in .308" diameter.

Since I got Quickload 6 years ago, I use Quickload all the time.

I can't use half the features, but it is user friendly to computer idiots like me.

The 6mm BR website has a good overview:
http://www.6mmbr.com/Quickload.html

To give you an idea of how I use it:
I enter the caliber, bullet, OAL, maximum pressure, maximum case fill ratio, and ask it to tell me the hierarchy of powders in order of velocity.

How is that useful?
Load books may have 3 pressure levels for 45/70, but they only have one for 25/35.
If I am going to load for a Ruger #1 and not some old Winchester lever action, what powder should I use?

Also, load books tell scant little about what happens with pistol powders in bottle necked rifle cartridges. I like to shoot Blue Dot is .223 at ground squirrels.

Also, it comes with Quick Target, and it tells how much bullet drop and wind shift, for given zero at a range I pick and a distance from the barrel bore to the scope center.

 

[jjohnson]

Setting it Straight

Hey, Clark, I wasn't saying I don't like the program.

I use Quickload all the time - and it's way more useful than I'd ever ask it to be. It's GREAT to have a program that does all that it does, and yep, it's very user friendly.

That being said, of all the powders it DOES have in it, it DOESN'T have some of the ones I'm using. I know I can *maybe* get away with substituting bullet combinations if I'm very conservative with powder (like one cast 158-grain wadcutter bullet will likely behave, in terms of pressure, SIMILAR to another cast 158-grain of a SIMILAR wadcutter design but different manufacturer). I'm just not comfortable with switching powder data like "okay, red dot and promo are similar, so I'll use red dot data for promo powder." No way. That's why I'm looking for a proper way to get exact powder data in there in the first place - I've gotten fond of having all my fingers.

 

[calaverasslim]

powder

Eziest thing to do is go to the Hogdon site and open their data and get the info you need for the powder you asked about.

 

[Car Knocker]

Kinda negates being able to use the Quickload functions though, doesn't it?

 

[jjohnson]

Answer from Hodgdon on Getting Their Data

Oooooh, I got a quick - and almost curt - answer from Hodgdon's "no-help desk." THEY DON'T GIVE THEIR DATA TO ANYBODY (and they repeated that they don't give their data to anybody). My guess is somebody's attorney had a stroke over the question. At any rate, I'm not surprised by the answer, and in retrospect, that's not against the powder folks, that's a statement about lawyers and society

The product (Quickload) really IS handy, and I do use it every time I load, but hey, it really WOULD be nice if we could get some of those cool powders that have been developed in recent years into the data tables. :banghead: