Quickload user forum?

[genebofunk]

Hello all, I just got a copy of quikload a few weeks back and have been trying to find either a users forum or some place that has a wealth of information. Has anyone out there found an active users forums or some good resources?

Thanks,
Gene

 

[Sunray]

Personally, I wouldn't trust a computer program for reloading. Programmers are rarely shooters(We technicians are) and there are far too many variables involved for a program to work every time.

 

[genebofunk]

Well you may not trust it, but it can be a useful tool. Just like how your numbers from your load differs from the manuals, sometimes by a great deal. But it can still be a useful tool. Don't want to get into a discussion about wether or not you trust it just where are some good resources to learn more about it.

 

[ReloaderFred]

Join the castboolits.com forum and there is an ongoing thread about the QuickLoad Program. I've had it for about a year now and find it quite useful when going into unknown territory on a load. The inventor of the program is a shooter from Germany, so there are a lot of powders and bullets in it that are only found in that part of the world. However, there are plenty of powders and bullets that we use, and some I didn't expect to be on there at all, i.e.; cast bullets from Lyman, RCBS and Lee.

Here's the link to the thread: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?55697-Quickload-thread

Hope this helps.

Fred

 

[genebofunk]

Thanks Fred, that does help. It would be nice if there was a dedicated forum for this software since its one of the only reloading programs out there.

 

[MEHavey]

QuickLoad is as sliced bread to those who use it intelligently. It provides
information/options/consequences/projections that nothing else does
in this business. Absolutely nothing else at all.

HOWEVER: QuickLoad goes most effectively with a chronograph. Without
it the shooter is operating no less blindfolded as he is just blindly following
a manual.

Start a Q&A QuickLoad thread and watch it begin to fill up with information.

 

[fjlee]

Here is QL group:


http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/quickload-discussion/?guid=1013473

FjLee Denver CO

 

[genebofunk]

Well I did a load workup and found a load that was really accurate. I ran those rounds over a chrono and and trying to adjust quickload's settings so that I can get the same FPS results. I'm trying to get a load that simulates those results, ie barrel time and fill capacity that will have those similar characteristics to what I have found with my know good load. This way I have can have a list with powders and charge weights that I know will be in the ballpark of the load that is a known good. In these days where you can never get the powder you want it is a very useful thing to know what powders can emulate what you have. For that, I believe that quickload is a very versatile tool. I'm just trying to found out which parameters are the appropriate ones to tweak. But in searching I could not find a place/forum devoted to quickload users that was active as in the last 6 months to a year.

 

[Clark]

QL cost $153 + shipping.
I would pay $10k if I had to.
I load over 60 cartridges, and never stop experimenting.
I own over 50 load books and no longer use them.
If you load the same cartridge(s) the same way you always have, QL will not do you any good.

Here is my spiel from 4 years ago about getting started:
1) Click on the Quickload icon on your desktop
2) Click on "continue".
3) select a cartridge
4) click on the 7th icon on the tool bar. It is the second image that is binoculars over a case.
5) click on "ok"
6) Click on "ok"
7) Click on "ok"
8) Click on "yes"
9) Select a bullet
10) select a powder
11) type in a powder charge
13) type in a barrel length
14) click on "Apply&Calc" in the charge section
15) Wait for 10 seconds for the velocity and pressure to appear

16) Click on the QuickTarget icon on your desktop
17) Click on continue
18) Click on "Receive Data from QuickLOAD"

19) Click on the 16th icon on the Quickload tool bar that says "1 2 3".
20) Enter a maximum pressure of 65,000 psi
21) Click on "Apply&Exit"
22) Find the powder in that list, that you own, that gets the highest velocity
23) Select that powder in the charge section

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3RkvTxW4lE
Kevin Adam
http://www.shootforum.com/forum/
http://www.6mmbr.com/quickload.html


I go further, but there are things I don't do.
I will tweak it so it matches the chronograph:
a) I have jug of H4350 that only matches velocity and pressure if I enter 4% less powder than I am actually shooting. But for case fill ratio, I enter the full amount I am using.
b) I will up the start pressure from ~2,000 psi to ~4,000 psi to represent jamming the bullet into the lands
c) I am mindful of the OAL I enter.
d) When I substitute bullets that are not in the QL library, I need the bullet length.
e) I enter the barrel length.

I use the Quicktarget that comes with Quickload to make my windage and drop charts for shooting long range.
I use the Quicktarget that comes with Quickload to choose bullets.
I use the Quicktarget that comes with Quickload to choose my next cartridge to buy the reamer and dies.

What I do not do, is enter the parameters for new bullet nor new powders. I simply call up NECO and order an update.

QL is extremely accurate at estimating velocity and pressure for bottle necked cartridges, but extremely inaccurate for estimating straight wall pistol cartridges with double loads.

I have Quickload on my computer and I bought another one for using on my brother's computer, 900 miles from here, where I hunt.

 

[DanTheFarmer]

Clark said, "QL is...extremely inaccurate for estimating straight wall pistol cartridges with double loads."

I don't think this is going to be a very common problem for anyone else!

I for one, and I think have company here, am constantly informed, entertained, and frightened by your posts! I'm praying for ya'.

Dan

P.S. Why does that old joke about the missing 3 legged, blind in one eye, deaf dog named "Lucky" come to mind.

 

[rsrocket1]

I've found that Quickload is very accurate in straight walled handgun applications when using mid-level loads. I try to set my peak pressures at 75% SAAMI max and with 4" or longer barrels, the estimated speeds are really accurate compared to my chronographed speeds.

I've seen that the estimated speeds fall way off in accuracy when using snubnose 1-1/2" or 2" barreled guns. Usually the estimates are way too low and flip flop with respects to which powders/load weights perform better.

The best thing about the program is that you can try out so many different powders to see which ones are equivalent (good in today's shortages) and which ones are simply good to stay away from.

 

[RentaCop]

QuickLoad is as sliced bread to those who use it intelligently. It provides
information/options/consequences/projections that nothing else does
in this business. Absolutely nothing else at all.

HOWEVER: QuickLoad goes most effectively with a chronograph. Without
it the shooter is operating no less blindfolded as he is just blindly following
a manual.

Start a Q&A QuickLoad thread and watch it begin to fill up with information.

Yes. +1

 

[Clark]

I take dial calipers to the range.
I measure the extractor groove before and after firing.
I measure all the way around, looking for any increase.
This is a more useful metric than difficulty in inserting the next primer in finding the threshold of loose primer pockets.

For me, to have Quickload running right, is to find that threshold at the same pressure for same case head designs.

1) Cannot be measured, as the primer will pierce first:
The 1889 Mauser 7.65x53mm case head design, when built with a small Boxer primer and shot in a strong rifle;
6mmBR, 22BR, 30BR, Lapua 308 Palma

2) Very high pressure for the 1950 designed .222 case head with small rifle primer in a strong rifle: 17 Rem, 204 Ruger, 221 Rem Fireball, .222 Win, .223 Rem, 5.56x45mm, .222 Rem mag, 6x45mm.

3) High pressure for the 1889 Mauser 7.65x53mm case head design, when built with a large Boxer primer and shot in a strong rifle; 22-250, 243, 6mm Rem, 250 Savage, 257 Roberts, 25-06, 260 Rem, 6.5x55 [US brass], 270, 7mm-08, 7x57mm, 280, 300Sav, 308, 7.62x51mm, 30-06, 8x57mm, 338F, 358, and 35W.

What does it all mean?
I want my Quickload predictions of velocity to match the chronograph.
AND I want my Quickload pressure predictions match my expectation for the threshold of extractor groove growth.

And when one matches, usually the other one does too.

 

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