iamkris
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Let’s get one thing straight…I’ve turned out to be an old curmudgeon (at 38 yrs old) and am a dyed in the wool big bore guy. I’ve been through the “light weight and high velocity†thing but grew out of it. I shoot 45 ACP pistols and .308 MBRs. My single action revolvers are 45 Colt. I shoot a Sharps in .45-70.
I grew up loving the HK91. I read about it in stories from Special Forces in Vietnam. The “HK Mystique†that floats around only made that infatuation grow. Finally a year and a half ago I bought a Century-built G3…got lucky too because this one worked and was relatively accurate. Thing is, I also bought a DSA STG-58A last year also. The last year I spent with the two Cold War cousins convinced me that there is little to love about the G3…it’s clumbsy, hard to field strip, dirty as heck inside, not-at-all-ergonomic and well, just not quite up to snuff with the STG. The only thing it has going for it is…it’s an HK…and a fake one at that. So, the HK has got to go. I’ll take it to the Indy Gun Show next week and see what I can get for it.
In replacement, I decided to buy an AR. I’ve looked down my nose at them but frankly don’t have much experience with one so decided to remedy that. I viewed the AR as a go between from my “reach-out-and-touch-you†STG and my “up-close-and-personal-shotgun†with #1 buckshot. I got a DPMS forged fixed/collapsible stock lower and a Model 1 16†flattop CAR upper yesterday. Both the upper and lower exude quality. Edges are crisp. Parts fit together nicely and the finish is even and matches well between the two halves. Took both the AR and the STG to the range today.
The AR is everything the proponents say it is. Light, handy, easy to mix-and-match. The controls are ergonomic. Magazines snap in crisply and eject nicely. A2 sights are excellent. Light recoil. That “screen-door-sproing†when shooting is annoying but I can get used to it. The charging handle really is in the wrong place just like everyone says.
Ran 60 rounds of Spanish SS109 though it. Once I got the sights on the paper it turned in reasonable groups at 50 yards (say around 1â€) so I moved to 100 yards. Turned in around 3†groups there. Hmm, not bad with iron sights but I expected more from the “accurate little black rifleâ€â€¦then again, it was late and I was getting tired. Didn’t get a chance to put a scope on it to see what it could do. Maybe next time. All in all, I like this rifle as a replacement for the G3 since I have another MBR in replacement.
Here was the funny thing. The STG must have been getting confident as she heard me mull over getting rid of the G3. “Finallyâ€, she must have thought, “a space in the safe for my own.†Then…what’s this talk of a replacement????!?!? The STG has excellent manners and is immaculately put together. Ergonomics are first rate. She can be stripped lickety split with minimal tools. She has, however, only ever shown MBR-like accuracy. 3-4 MOA. At best 2 MOA with a scope. Today, I shot her with Port surplus 308 with iron sights at 100 yards and got a 3†group. OK, seems about right.
Put the scope on her and shot two 3-shot groups that were 1.2†and 1.3†respectively. Hmmm, that’s unusual.
Shot another 3-shot group and turned in a 0.3†group. I quit right there.
OK, honey, I get it. You’re my favorite. You’re safe. I like the new AR but no one will replace you.
I grew up loving the HK91. I read about it in stories from Special Forces in Vietnam. The “HK Mystique†that floats around only made that infatuation grow. Finally a year and a half ago I bought a Century-built G3…got lucky too because this one worked and was relatively accurate. Thing is, I also bought a DSA STG-58A last year also. The last year I spent with the two Cold War cousins convinced me that there is little to love about the G3…it’s clumbsy, hard to field strip, dirty as heck inside, not-at-all-ergonomic and well, just not quite up to snuff with the STG. The only thing it has going for it is…it’s an HK…and a fake one at that. So, the HK has got to go. I’ll take it to the Indy Gun Show next week and see what I can get for it.
In replacement, I decided to buy an AR. I’ve looked down my nose at them but frankly don’t have much experience with one so decided to remedy that. I viewed the AR as a go between from my “reach-out-and-touch-you†STG and my “up-close-and-personal-shotgun†with #1 buckshot. I got a DPMS forged fixed/collapsible stock lower and a Model 1 16†flattop CAR upper yesterday. Both the upper and lower exude quality. Edges are crisp. Parts fit together nicely and the finish is even and matches well between the two halves. Took both the AR and the STG to the range today.
The AR is everything the proponents say it is. Light, handy, easy to mix-and-match. The controls are ergonomic. Magazines snap in crisply and eject nicely. A2 sights are excellent. Light recoil. That “screen-door-sproing†when shooting is annoying but I can get used to it. The charging handle really is in the wrong place just like everyone says.
Ran 60 rounds of Spanish SS109 though it. Once I got the sights on the paper it turned in reasonable groups at 50 yards (say around 1â€) so I moved to 100 yards. Turned in around 3†groups there. Hmm, not bad with iron sights but I expected more from the “accurate little black rifleâ€â€¦then again, it was late and I was getting tired. Didn’t get a chance to put a scope on it to see what it could do. Maybe next time. All in all, I like this rifle as a replacement for the G3 since I have another MBR in replacement.
Here was the funny thing. The STG must have been getting confident as she heard me mull over getting rid of the G3. “Finallyâ€, she must have thought, “a space in the safe for my own.†Then…what’s this talk of a replacement????!?!? The STG has excellent manners and is immaculately put together. Ergonomics are first rate. She can be stripped lickety split with minimal tools. She has, however, only ever shown MBR-like accuracy. 3-4 MOA. At best 2 MOA with a scope. Today, I shot her with Port surplus 308 with iron sights at 100 yards and got a 3†group. OK, seems about right.
Put the scope on her and shot two 3-shot groups that were 1.2†and 1.3†respectively. Hmmm, that’s unusual.
Shot another 3-shot group and turned in a 0.3†group. I quit right there.
OK, honey, I get it. You’re my favorite. You’re safe. I like the new AR but no one will replace you.
Both carry enough range for the shooter to be the problem in hitting a man, not the caliber. Both will give anyone hit by them much to ponder.
