Range Report for a Unique Gun.

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Peter M. Eick

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Range Report for a Unique Gun.

Our subject today is a 1939 Smith and Wesson “Registered Magnumâ€.

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The gun was a custom piece and was built as part of the “registration†program that Smith and Wesson had for the early 357 Magnums. For those un-familiar with the “Registered†magnums, when Smith and Wesson brought out the 357 magnum it was a custom piece. Each revolver had to be ordered via a dealer and then the revolver was hand built at Smith and Wesson to the purchaser’s specifications. Some 5500 odd revolvers were built under this program before it was stopped in approximately November of 1939. The sample in this report came from the very end of the “Registered†program. The picture below shows what the “registration numbers†look like. The REG-53** is the registration number. The number below is the assembly number and the serial number is on the barrel, cylinder, frame, hammer and a few other places like the grips.

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These guns were made with a quality of workman ship that is not commonly seen any more. For example, look at the checkering on the humpbacked hammer below:

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Or another example of checkering is the top strap shown below:

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Or look at the side cuts on the hammer:

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Finally something I wish all revolvers had, a hold open latch to keep the cylinder open when loading, cleaning or just playing with it.

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I have heavily lubed, cleaned and relubed the gun several times since I bought it and now have fired 979 rounds down it. The magna grips are fairly difficult for me to shoot well. They really need to have more “bite†for me to shoot them with great accuracy, but I think I did pretty well all in all.

The range conditions were 15 yards, either double or single action shooting, and when shooting single action the gun was rested. Double action was from a two hand modified weaver stance. All targets have 50 shots into them. The trigger pull has changed dramatically since I purchased the gun. It is now registering a consistent 2 lbs, 8 onz for single action and 9 lbs 9 onz for double action. I believe that the cleaning, soaking in oil, shooting and cleaning again is getting a lot of old varnish out of the gun.

The ammunition used was a moderate 357 magnum load. The brass was Starline, cci-550 primers, 158 grn Lasercast SWC, 13.5 grns of 2400, col of 1.555, crimp of .3775. Out of the Registered at 10 feet this gives a mean of 1166 FPS, a SD of 12 fps, and a spread of 28 FPS for a 20 shot string.
In double action at 15 yards I had a pretty good target going but I really started to fall apart at about round 35. The last 15 shots were pretty wild. So the following picture is for a 15 yrd target, 50 shots, double action, 2 handed modified weaver stance:

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The gun seems to pull slightly to the lower left when you are aiming a 6 o’clock hold for conventional target shooting. The 3 obvious flyers were the last 3 shots. I should have just tossed them in the dirt because I new they were going to be bad prior to taking the shot. In double action mode, I found that the cylinder once it got turning would just “float†to lock-up and then you could easily control or break the shot at the last instant.

Now for Single action. These targets are 50 shots each, off a bench, fired single action with one hand holding the gun. The loads are the same as above. The rest was a rabbit ear leather sand bag that I use for rifle shooting. I was sitting at the time.

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The revolver shoots very well, and the recoil is not that noticeable but one must be very very careful with the trigger squeeze. It breaks very sharply and quite light compared to most handguns I have shot. One complaint is the sight picture. I found them very difficult to get a clean sharp image on the target. I tended to loose focus on the front sight because the back was just not as sharp as I would have liked.

In summary, this is an excellent example of a "shooter grade" Registered. This gun was refinished at the factory in July of 1944 so it does not have the collector’s value of a more pristine Registered would. I think it was an excellent birthday present to me (thanks Carrie) and I really enjoy shooting it. My final comment would be that everyone should try one out and really appreciate how nicely fitted and made these guns were. It kind of puts most of my modern (post 1960) guns to true shame for the fit and finish that were undertaken.

This revolver was and is a testament to the raw skill and quality of the Smith and Wesson company and I hope that some day they could make something like it again.
 
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One complaint is the sight picture. I found them very difficult to get a clean sharp image on the target. I tended to loose focus on the front sight because the back was just not as sharp as I would have liked.

That may be partly your eyes. I'd suggest blackening the rear sight at the start of a shooting session.

Beautiful gun!
 
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Here is the sight picture. It is not the darkness it is the crispness of the edges. Also it is very low.

Thanks for the suggestion though.
 
Beautiful revolver, Sir - -

I noted that in the very first photograph, this fine old piece was wearing a set of rather late magna style stocks, and immediately became curious. The subsequent images, though, depict the "Large Diamond" type. Was the first taken before you located the earlier ones, or did you install the later, fuller-bodied, type for comfort in shooting?

All best,
Johnny
 
The first picture was taken with the grips as "shipped" which are some mid 50's vintage magnas. Between when I took that picture and went shooting I bought a set of Registered Magnum grips (not to my registration number but close) from another collector and put them on. It is the closest I can come to getting the right grips on the revolver.


I can now say that my revolver is as close to original as I can get it. Original grips, original sights, original barrel, frame and cylinder. The only part that is not original is the exact grips for my gun and the finish.

I sure would like to know what strings were pulled to get this revolver refinihed in july of 1944 and also what happened to the grips. There is a big story hear I need to figure out some day.

Thanks for the comments. I thought you all might be interested.

Gordon my understanding is pretty much all of the pre-war S&W's have the hold open latch. Post war ones do not.
 
Thanks for the great report and wonderful pictures.
Could you provide more details on the hold open latch?
 
It appears that there is some sort of ball detent in the crane that snaps into it when you open the cylinder up. It will hold the cylinder open through some pretty violet shaking and snaps open and closed quite nicely. I would guess it is something akin to the "triple lock" detent used on the early Hand Ejectors on the crane but I am guessing. It is completely hidden in the crane so I cannot really investigate it.

All I can say is it works and works well. It would be really nice to have on my other revolvers.
 
The yoke lock you refer to was installed on many of the pre-war "N" frame revolvers, and on K-frames prior to 1919. It consisted of a coil spring & plunger that was installed in the crane, and a detent "spot" that was milled into the frame so that the plunder would hold the cylinder open until it was deliberately closed. It would not be difficult for a competent pistolsmith to install a similar one on any of the larger framed S&W revolvers.

To see the arrangement remove the front sideplate screw, and then wiggle the cylinder and yoke forward and off of the frame. Be careful to not lose the plunger because it will fly as soon as the yoke is pulled far enough forward to release it. Over the years many of these guns that had this feature no longer do because the plunger (and/or spring) was lost.
 
Hello, and thanks for the very interesting post with the really fine photography.
You have a very beautiful revolver.

Best and thanks again.
 
VERY nice revolver sir, I am jealous. Nice to see she shoots so well after all these years. The finish is near immaculate, someone really babied it. Congrats on your find........
 
First off, KUDOS on the fine photos!

I hear you on the sight picture. However, it doesn't appear to me from your photos that there is any damage to the sights, such as dented or rolled edges. Give that sight-black idea a whirl and see if it doesn't help things for you.;)
 
Ole Fuff: Was there any function to the side cuts on the hammer or was it just decorative? Thanks!
 
B.G.

The cuts were supposed to reduce friction between the frame and hammer. While it did do this to a small degree I think the main purpose was to offer a sales feature at a time when sales were slow during the Great Depression. Most of those hammers were used on Brazilian contract 1917's, .38/45 Heavy Duty & Outdoorsman ... and of course .357 Magnum revolvers.

There were many small "improvements" in the revolvers made between the two World Wars that were dropped during the World War Two era and never reintroduced. If you ever completely disassemble an original pre-war .357 Magnum (I have - several) and examine the internal as well as external workmanship you will see handgun building as a high art. There are a number of reason there guns are so expensive today, and this is one of those reasons.
 
Thanks Old Fuff! You know (not to change the subject) I used to feel exactly the same way about the Belgian Brownings - the insides were finished better than the outsides of most other brands. I would love to see a old timey Reg'd MAGNUM disassembled. Really a treat, I'm sure! :D
 
Had to make an update. Here is its brothers and sisters in proper grip attire:

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Or if you just want the 357 mags

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Or if you just want the 38 specials

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Enjoy, I certainly love to shoot them!
 
Darn. You know what this forum needs?

A drool smiley! Gorgeous Smith & Wessons, Peter. They just became my wallpaper, thanks for sharing!
 
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