range won't let me keep my own brass!?

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duby450, I do not know what range in Minnesota you are going to, but I have used Bill's in Lino Lakes and have had no issues with recovering any of my brass. I would not go back to that range with any of my center fires if I was told I could not recover my own brass. They are mine and have been for years and several reloads, no ifs, ands or buts about it! I could understand if you where in the way of other customers or causing any safety related concerns.

DMH
 
I know my range frowns on getting brass forward of the line by sweeping it back with the range broom. Occasionally i acciddently shuck a 35 Remington case forward, and it prompty gets retrieved regardless.
 
ALL EMPTY SHELLS BECOME RANGE PROPERTY.
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I would inform them that I will never spend a dime in their establishment and will encourage all of my extensive circle of gun owning friends and acquaintances to likewise shoot elsewhere as long as they are determined to steal lawfully owned property. Merely by leaving my empty car in their parking lot does not relinquish my ownership of the vehicle as long as I return to drive it away within the business day, or any specified time period on a clearly marked sign in the lot, i.e., "30 Min Park Only". If I leave the range, then I have donated any left over items, whether it be used brass or used lead, to the owners of the establishment. If not, I will recover what I brought in with me within reason, i.e., brass behind the line and I don't intend to sift through the bullet traps for my lead.
 
I shoot an old Mauser C96 that I have to handload 7.92mm (.312 inch) bullets to get any accuracy (the worn-out bore looks like polygonal rifling). I would not shoot at a range that did not allow me to keep my brass.

Another reason to hate indoor ranges, beside the fact that shooting has always been an outdoor activity for me.
 
My brass costs me and I sure as hec will not shoot at any range where they feel it is their right to keep my brass because it hit the floor. I'm already paying a fee to shoot there and they want to claim my property as well?:confused:
 
Brass is dear since commodity prices are high. ...blame that on Ben Benranke who keeps printing money...
 
Wow I can't believe how many replies I've got already! To answer one of the questions, no there is not a sign anywhere saying to leave the brass nor is it in print anywhere. There must not have been anyone there yet since there was no brass on the floor when we got there so I started sweeping my brass and he came in and said oh you don't have to clean up, I said I'm keeping it to load at home. Nope. I go to this range 4-8 times a month and just started reloading. This place is a little cheaper and not as busy as the range across the highway, now i know why and they not only lost my business but about 6 other buddies and family that tag along with me.
 
DMH, this is Metro gun club and its in Blaine only about 2 miles from Bills. I usually prefer metro because its not quite as busy and I had a bad experience at bills last year because some dummy was trying to clear a jam and fired the gun accidentally directly to his left and into the wall. Luckily he was on the end lane and I was to his right! But its back to Bills from now on anyway.
 
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Yeah ill definitely build a few of them and rent about 8 lanes with my buddies and have each one of em use a catcher and see how the owner likes that.
 
can't keep my brass

You can always shoot your .22s there

Whenever I shoot at a commercial range that's really busy at that particular time, I just take a variety of my .22s to shoot and don't worry about brass recovery.

Otherwise, I'm a total brass whore because I save it and trade it off to my local commercial reloader
 
One Range I shoot at lets Me take all the Brass I want as long as I promise not to sell it.
I always go Home with a lot more than I started with.
 
Policies like this remind me of a carnival merry-go-round where the owner has the price jacked up so high that only a handful of riders are on the ride. It cost the same amount of money to operate the ride---insurance, maintenance, electricity---yet the ride has unfilled seats that are losing money. Far better would it be to reduce the price of a ticket until the ride fills up.

The range is very similar. Overhead remains the same, and there's no loss of inventory when you use the range---it's pure profit. If you take your business elsewhere, the owner loses big time. They also lose the opportunity to sell ammo, targets, and other supplies. A poor businessman, indeed.
 
I shot mostly at an indoor range owned by Bud's (the same one selling guns on the internet). Now they just built a new store and range here in Lexington. The range is state of the art so I can even shoot black powder in it as well as having a reaction range also. Now they have no problem with you picking up what ever brass is within reach at least that I've seen. Their original location in Paris, KY it was different however the price per hour is still the same by the way. I have a yearly membership so not a problem getting range times either though I tend to go on weekdays when less than a few hundred people in their store at any given moment.
 
One local range doesn't like people picking up their brass because people tend to pick up the brass others leave behind which they feel is theirs. They complain every now and then but i tell them i only pick up the same number of cases i shoot. Some people i've seen will bring in large nets and position them to catch ejected brass.

Shooting steel cased ammo isn't showing a range whats up, as some seem to believe, given how easy it is to seperate with a magnet.
 
Dubya450, I have not been to Metro Gun Club since the early 80's. I like outdoor shooting at Oakdale Gun Club, Wild Wings North in Pine City or the one on HWY 23 east of the Casino in Hinckley MN. For indoor Its just been Bill's ($21.40 lane and tax) no time limit. I have not had them say a thing about picking up brass and I always keep track of the brass. I remember once spending 15 minutes (wasting 15 minutes) finding one 32-20 case. Finally found that one. The guys at Bill's are friendly and helpful.

DMH
 
I would absolutely refuse to shoot ANYWHERE that insists on STEALING what is rightfully mine, namely, the brass I own. Any outfit that does so should be sued out of existence, PERIOD.
 
The range I belong to tried the same thing. I told them my brass was my property and I WOULD collect it, we got in an argument, They finally agreed to let me keep what is on the carpet we stand and walk on. If it hits the floor in the shooting lane in front of me, than it is theirs.

I felt that was a reasonable agreement because your not alowed to reach into the shooting lane anyways for insurance reasons on behalf of the owner of the range. It blew over and we are all friends again.
 
I have not encountered this before but When I was trap shooting, any hull that hit the ground belonged to the club. If you took the hull out of the chamber it was yours. The clubs picked up the hulls and sold them back to reloaders. It was part of the rnage fees.
 
I've heard of it but never been to a range like that. Nor would I frequent a range that didn't let me keep my brass.

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he is probably selling it to a reloader somewhere. I would find aluminum , steel or brass cased rounds that are berdan primed and shoot a few of them there. once that starts messing up the reloading machines and they have to start sorting it their cheap source of brass ain't so cheap anymore.
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I LIKE that idea!:evil:

Steel & aluminium probably wouldn't bollocks the system like some Berdan primed brass tho... :D
 
The range I shoot at, I always leave my brass. Of course, I shoot at my buddy's place and he reloads and I don't and he will occasionally plop down a box of reloads on the bench when I show up, so I think it works out well for both of us, although he kinda gives me crap when I show up with my mosin and copper-washed steel ammo or my Saiga that I shoot Tulammo out of.
 
DMH, does the range in pine city have an outdoor rifle range? I need to sight in my new m70 and don't want to drive way up to our land or use Bills 50 yard indoor range. Especially since its a 338 wm (loud!) I drive by the one in oakdale quite a bit in my dump truck since i work in that area. Think ill stop in after work one day.
 
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