josiewales
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That was an excellent fact finding show. Pierce Morgan is a hack.
The problem for 2A supporters is that anti's don't care about facts--they care about agendas. They will say and believe anything that seems to back what they wish were true, thinking that wanting it hard enough will make it true.
Sad.
Empirical support for firearms laws has proved to be elusive in the USA as well as the UK. In 2004 the US National Academy of Sciences released its evaluation from a review of 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some epirical research of its own. It could not identify any gun law that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents (Wellford et al., 2004). The US Centers for Disease Control reached a similar conclusion in 2003 in their independent review of research on firearms laws (Hahn et al., 2003).
Historical ignorance allows some to credit stringent gun control for the generally low homicide rates in the United Kingdom and western Europe. This claim cannot be accurate because murder in Europe was generally lower before the gun controls were introduced (Barnet and Kates, 1996:1239). Stringent gun controls were not adopted in either the United Kingdom or western Europe until after World War I. Consistent with the outcomes of the American studies mentioned above, these strict controls did not stem the general trend of ever-growing violent crime throughout the post-World War II industrialized world (Malcom, 2002:209, 219).
In the late 1990's the UK moved from stringent controls to a complete ban on handguns and many types of long guns. Without suggesting this caused violence, the ban's ineffectiveness was such that by the year 2000 violent crime had increased so much that England had the developed world's highest rate of violent crime, far surpassing even the USA (van Kesteren et al., 2001).
Good point. I wish I could say, it's a news station, of course it's valid! Afraid not.One thing to note about the posted video. Halfway through, they stopped quoting citations on where the stats came from. I wouldn't accept stats in our favor wholeheartedly either if you're to make a rational, reasoned argument. I want the citations for all the numbers, even if they're against or in our favor.
I wonder if Piers Morgan knows that, for the first time in the 200-year history of the Metropolitan Police, bobbies armed with Glock pistols and H&K MP5 submachine guns are patrolling parts of London? We're not talking about special squads, we're talking about regular beat cops who have received firearms training. The London Police have always had access to firearms, but this is the first time they've been part of the daily kit.