Recommendtions on lightweight ar15 uppers?

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Was wondering what you guys would recommend for a lightweight ar15 upper. Barrel lengths would have to be 14.5in or 16in and priced from cheap to mid range no crazy pricy carbon fiber titanium stuff. Thanks.
 
bravo company lightweight barrel (or enhanced if you want) with .625 lo pro gas block
bravo company KMR-a rail
standard upper receiver
 
Sticking with a standard polymer fore-end instead of a free-floated rail system will save you both weight & $$$.

Buying an upper with a standard A2 front sight housing (in contrast with flip-down front sights) will save you $$.

Going with a thin barrel profile will save you significant weight.

Bravo company has a 14.5" mid-length gas system upper that would be very nice, very compact, and very light:

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-BFH-14-5-Mid-Length-LW-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-14lw-bfh.htm
 
I'd suggest BCM. Either a lightweight with A2 fsb or without and kmr. Whichever you prefer really
 
I just picked up a complete Colt 6920CK 16" upper for $627 from Midway. 1-1/2" groups at 100 yards with 3-4 in <0.75" and 1-2 flyer(s) in each of 7 five shot groups with Federal American 55gr ammo. I put the upper on my Blue Label 20" AR-15A2 so I could use my Leupy VX-R 1.25-4x20 on a flat top. Great shooting rifle. I recommend it highly although I may change the fixed buttstock for an adjustable MagPul and change the pop-up rear sight for a Magpul Mbus.

Cheers,

Harry
 
Well I'll have to email BCM and see if they can give me weights on there uppers as it doesn't look like they list them. Not gonna buy anything I can't get a weight on first.
 
I think the lightest barrels out there are the Faxon gunners right at 1lbs. Then the KMR is crazy light. I think the 15'' Alpha model is like 10oz with all the hardware. So if you went down to a 10'' model, which would just cover the gas block on a mid length, then I think those are more like 7 or 8 ounces. Of course the lightest FF tubes on the market are those carbon fiber glue on ones, and they only retail for around 100 I think. The 12'' model is like 6 ounces. Check out Clark Customs.

That's basically as light as you're going to get without getting into titanium this and that. You can save some weight by using a slick upper. And of course you'll have to be careful what kind of stock you use. I think MFT makes the lightest adjustable ones right now. You could also use a thread protector instead of a muzzle device. You can also save a lot of weight on the lower with one of those cav arms setups.

I wouldn't even think about a 14.5'', not unless you're willing to SBR it. I bought a pinned and welded 14.5'' because the price was right, and never again. You're basically stuck with what you have from then on out. They're also difficult to sell.

ETA: You'll also want to be careful what optic you use. I would suggest an RMR or fastfire.
 
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I wouldn't even think about a 14.5'', not unless you're willing to SBR it. I bought a pinned and welded 14.5'' because the price was right, and never again.

Why won't you buy another 14/5" barrel with pinned and welded muzzle brake?

Is there something wrong about it's performance or is it just a personal preference?

You're basically stuck with what you have from then on out. They're also difficult to sell.

If the barrel has permanently attached (welded) muzzle brake and length is over 16" why is the seller stuck with it? It is not NFA registered. From what I see on various websites is 16.1" O.A.L. uppers are selling well.
 
Faxon makes a good quality barrel for a price that makes them a good value. The GUNNER profile is nice and light and has what I think is the best barrel profile offered for an AR. For a few more dollars, Faxon will include a matched bolt which helps with precision. Faxon also offers great customer service. They also offer a pencil profile which is two or three ounces lighter which, when I checked yesterday, was in stock. The 16 inch GUNNER isn't. I'm waiting for the 16 inch GUNNER to become available again. Faxon barrels are available through other sellers, but without the matched bolt
 
The major sources of weight in the AR upper are barrel profile, then the FSB. Go pencil on the barrel and find a lo pro gas block that you can work with attaching the handguards or float.

After that there are some tweaks using a slick side upper but for the most part they don't shed much weight for the additional cost of the smaller production runs. An A3 railed upper will be slightly lighter than the older carry handle types.

If a free float seems to be in the budget then avoid the ones with milled rails on them as they add weight and in some cases extra feet of unused rail. An ALG tube with quick mount holes is one of the better lower cost and light floats on the market. Be very careful choosing muzzle devices as anything more than a standard A2 flash hider goes up in price very quickly. Many of the designs are actually heavier, too. Keep weight off the end of the barrel and it will feel lighter than one with a lot of stuff out there that actually weighs less. For the average shooter, BUIS, slings, vertical handgrips, lights, etc add weight and cost, but they can only offer a very small incremental increase in accuracy for the expense. Which is something that practice can overcome.

As for a 14.5" welded and pinned, it makes any future changes difficult and the weight savings is minimal for the extra cost and 1 1/2" shorter overall length. If someone wants short, then an AR pistol or SBR with 10.5" barrel does that job better.

The internet is your friend, finding parts is as hard as finding a search engine like this one: http://arpartsfinder.com/
 
Thanks for the info so far guys.

I'm seeing some different options out there are far as free float hand guards go mostly looking at the M-Lok or Keymod. How much would running a aluminum barrel nut save me as some seem to come with steel ones.

I'm not at all worried about a 14.5 barrel and would prefer it over a 16in but it's not a deal breaker either way. I will permanently attach the muzzle devise myself with silver soldier which the ATF says is a accepted method.

As far as the muzzle device goes I'll be running the SJC titan. I have the SJC 11 port on my open pistol and i'm very happy with it.
 
Faxon barrels by all means the best barrel for the money invested, i have several of the light weight Gunner profile and i believe even lighter, the pencil. They also produce a very small circumfrance and sturdy rail for a decent price.
 
PSA has a pencil profile upper that they put on sale from time to time, usually around 200 bucks.

I have a 16" Melonite freedom upper and its been great, functions perfect.
 
Larue PredatAR 16" barrel, DSA lightweight receiver and a lightweight free float. This little bugger only weighs 6lbs as shown. Complete upper was about $500, half of that being the barrel.
 

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PSA ended up running a deal on a 3.12lb upper with a 12in mlok rail. Just purchased it last night
 
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