"Red Dot in Reduced Rifle Loads" again....follow up

[willroute]

Ok, I know this has been covered... I have some berry's bullets in 30-30 that cannot go above 1700FPS...I have read that 13 grain is safe. I have also read that 9 grains works great. My question is what is the COL you guys were using? Just stay below min and not hit max? I was just concerned about the pressure and the COL with red dot. I know trailboss will work better, but I have red dot.
Not using a filler. Yes, I know chrono it, test, but looking for input.

this seems to be great thread on it, plus the one archived on THR.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/419375-3030-150-gr-berrys-bullets.html

 

[willroute]

Ok, I know this has been covered... I have some berry's bullets in 30-30 that cannot go above 1700FPS...I have read that 13 grain is safe. I have also read that 9 grains works great. My question is what is the COL you guys were using? Just stay below min and not hit max? I was just concerned about the pressure and the COL with red dot. I know trailboss will work better, but I have red dot.
Not using a filler. Yes, I know chrono it, test, but looking for input.

this seems to be great thread on it, plus the one archived on THR.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/419375-3030-150-gr-berrys-bullets.html

Meant to say 13 grains is not SAFE for 30-30 30-06 and higher, yes....

 

[Steve C]

The 13.0 gr of Red Dot is "The Load" for military cartridges in the 30-06, 8mm Mauser, 7mm Mauser, .303 British and other higher pressure cartridges of similar capacity than the old 30-30 Winchester and is too much for it. Pressures of this load are not low pressure loads and are in the same level as full factory loads.

I am assuming you have 150gr Berry .30 caliber bullet as that is all they show on their website. See the Red Dot data from Lyman in the image from the 30-30 One Book Manual.

 

[willroute]

The 13.0 gr of Red Dot is "The Load" for military cartridges in the 30-06, 8mm Mauser, 7mm Mauser, .303 British and other higher pressure cartridges of similar capacity than the old 30-30 Winchester and is too much for it. Pressures of this load are not low pressure loads and are in the same level as full factory loads.

I am assuming you have 150gr Berry .30 caliber bullet as that is all they show on their website. See the Red Dot data from Lyman in the image from the 30-30 One Book Manual.

Thanks. That gives validity to the 9 grains. Will shoot some and let you guys know. Shooting out of a single shot and a JM marlin. (also a newer marlin I may try before I damage my JM )

 

[willroute]

I would just toss these and go with my normal loads not restrictive to 1700FPS on the Berry's, but I have 250 of them and a ton of red dot. so.....thx

 

[redbullitt]

I use a lot of red dot for slow loads and plinkers. Important to remember, low velocity does not mean low pressure in this case!

In my 3030 I had good results at around 8g Red Dot if I remember correctly. Accuracy was quite good, and no leading with my cast GC bullets. I imagine your plated bullets will do well too!

 

[willroute]

I use a lot of red dot for slow loads and plinkers. Important to remember, low velocity does not mean low pressure in this case!

In my 3030 I had good results at around 8g Red Dot if I remember correctly. Accuracy was quite good, and no leading with my cast GC bullets. I imagine your plated bullets will do well too!

Thanks! They did shoot good. Late reply....