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Reloading with componets i have

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by arrowdog, Jan 4, 2012.

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  1. arrowdog

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    New to . This..dont know where last threas went...im reloading 9mm with berrys 115gr plated bullet have tried 4.2 to 4.6 grs of bullseye...no accu.....tried 5.2 grs unique at 1.125 oal not good accuracy... Any suggestion? Using a kahr pm9
     
  2. Fleet

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    We need a definition of accuracy here. What size groups were you getting?
     
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    Any reloading experience? What equipment you using? Which manual(s) do you have?
     
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    If I'm not mistaken, that's a tiny pistol. I would think most folks would have a hard time getting much accuracy from one. Can you hit anything with it with factory ammo?
     
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    I know you said components you have but most 9mm don't shoot 115gr very well. 125 work best in most.
     
  6. Steve C

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    5.2 grs of Unique is a good accurate load in my Glock 19 using a Remington JHP 115gr bulk bullet at 1,151 fps velocity or about the same as Remington says their R9MM1 9mm 115gr does (1,155 fps). That doesn't mean the load will be accurate in your gun but the chances are a factory duplicate usually is.

    I read your first post and you said you are using a Lee loader. If you are using a Lee powder measure with the powder inserts and relying on the charts to get your load your load is probably less than 5.2grs as the charts are generally off a couple 10 ths grain from actual and you need to use a scale to measure for actual powder drop. Yu may have to go up a number or two on the chart to get a little heavier load.

    In a hand load the bullet is responsible for the largest portion of the loads potential accuracy. You may want to try a jacketed bullets by Remingotn, Speer, Sierra, Hornady, etc. just to see if your pistol works better with that type bullet.
     
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    Are you using a pistol rest or Ransom rest for these 'accuracy' tests? If not, maybe it's not the pistol or the ammo? That 4" barrel 'should' be more than enough to achieve MOD (Minute of Dead) accuracy.
     
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Your post is hard to understand. We don't charge by the word here, you can write a more detailed description of your problem so we can help.
     
  9. arrowdog

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    the componets I have

    I figured this deal out. I used Lee auto disk .66 for Unique, and OAL at 1.128" resulted in very tight grps. Then changed powder to Bullseye and Lee auto disk .43 for 4.0grs. and left OAL the same.. very tight grps, very happy with the results. The Kahr PM9 is a very accurate semi-auto. Just have to find what it like to eat. Remington 124gr HP is super accurate in this gun. I have duplicated it with berrys 115gr bullets, Unique and Bullseye powders. Thanks for your input.
     
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    Kahr 9mm loads

    I load Rem 124gr Golden Sabre jhp over max charge of power pistol for a nehews Kahr and his (actually wifey recquisitioned it) HiPoint carbine with great results.
    same load goes to another nephew's S&W915 and KelTec carbine and my 5903 and Marlin Camp 9mm
     
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    arrowdog, welcome to the forum and the world of reloading.

    Follow the reloading book guidelines for charge and oal. Load a few at the low end and then add a grain or two and load another 5-10 rds. Depending on how wide the "SAFE" range of loads given in the manual are, do it again. With a narrow load range .1 gr steps may be enough. Example: if the load range is from 3.9grs to 4.9grs, load some in ".2gr" steps. If the load range is 4.0grs to 4.5 grs, load in .1 gr steps.

    Shoot these, starting with the lightest loads. Shoot each load on a different target. "Usually" somewhere in the middle range of your load data, the groups will start to tighten up and the powder will burn cleaner. This means your getting close to efficient combustion for that powder at that oal, that bullet in that pistol..
    Now you can make small changes to the load --still within the published data--and see if it gets better groups or worse. Your tuning it to your needs. Always watch for signs of overpressure and shoot "slowly" to make sure you get BOTH a "BANG" and a "Hole in the target"---NO SQUIB.

    Change any component (Pistol, Powder, Bullet or OAL) and you have to start again from the bottom of the published load data and work up slowly.

    Hope this makes sense. Enjoy the process and stay SAFE, it's very satisfying to know "YOUR Load" shoots well in "Your Pistol".
     
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