Remington 105 CTI

[dho3]

I am curious what you guys think. I have a Remington 105 CTI that i bought several years ago, that is still brand new in the case and never fired. I purchased it based on Remington's reputation for building a good semi-automatic shotgun and I just liked the looks. Some don't. Regardless, I did not do my research, something I usually do extensively and bought the gun. Then I did the usual, let's see how other people feel about the gun. Well then I find out all about the problems, primarily the need to clean it every 250 rounds and the difficulty cleaning it, as well as the fact it does not like light loads. For this reason I have never shot it, thinking well maybe I should trade it. Well, yesterday I e-mailed Remington about my options. This is the response:

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105 cti

Discussion Thread
Response (Alfredo) 06/14/2011 11:04 AM
Thank you for visiting Remington Country! We certainly appreciate you taking the time to write in with your question. There was a upgrade program at one time. They where converting it to the 105 CTI 2 but we no longer do it. The gun has been discontinued for 2 years now. We no longer carry parts for them. There have been issue with them but you will need to fire yours to see if everything is ok.
Customer (1 Dolphin) 06/14/2011 06:26 AM
I am long time Remington fan that dates back to a Remington 742 BDL Deluxe and an 1100 Santa Claus brought for Christmas when I was only 11 and 12. A couple of years ago I bought a Remington 105 Cti, not the II, but have never shot it. I have read so much on the internet about the problems associated with that gun and the successor that I have been hesitant to shoot it and have thought about trading it. My questions are, is there some type of upgrade program offered by Remington to fix these problems? How do you feel about these reviews and negative comments about the gun? Obviously you no longer sell it, so there must be some credibility to these claims? Can I trade the gun for another Remington? Do you have any other solutions to the problems. I would really like to use the gun, but do not want to face all of the issues that the gun is credited with having. I would greatly appreciate some feedback. Thanks.

Dolphin Overton
Wilson, NC

Well, I am not surprised they do not want to trade the gun. But, I am surprised that they no longer carry parts. I am also surprised that I clearly stated that there were problems with the gun I bought and the successor, the CTI II and the only reference to solving any problem was to upgrade the gun was to the II, but that program had ended.

I am disappointed not in the fact that Remington did not want to take the gun from me, but in how the questions were handled and no attempt was made to make sure a dude product they made and sold to work correctly. In fact, no apology for the problems were made. Sort of like, oops, you are out of luck.

What would you guys do now? Shoot the gun or sell/trade it and gun something else. Any other opinions on the topic, please feel free to comment.

 

[oneounceload]

Put it up for sale on GB as NIB (true statement). Realize you most likely will not get what you paid for it.

Every maker has issues now and again - even the reputable ones. I am surprised that only two years later and there are no parts. They must have realized what a dog they had and cut parts production immediately when they decided to stop production.

Funny thing is, guns like tend to become collectible over a decent period of time - sort of like finding that stamp that the PO misprinted - guns that weren't popular at one time get "discovered" for their rarity years later. The question becomes whether or not you want to wait that long and take the chance on it increasing in value

 

[dho3]

That is what am thinking about doing. I have read the other threads regarding the gun and mine looks perfect. I am the kind of guy once I buy I never sell, but this may be my first. I paid about 850 on GB, BNIB. I bid and forgot about it until a week later when I won. I was only semi-serious and only bid because the price was low at that time and the others had easily topped a thousand. Thinking about a Weatherby 28 gauge semi-auto as the Benilli is way out of my price range.

 

[vaherder]

105CTI was the beginning of long run od disasters for Remington and QC issues. Remington's 887 also had big time QC issues aand the quality of current model 870's slipped big time. The current 1187 and 1100 cant compete with the B guns when it comes to quality. Then The Versamess sorry Versamax was recalled before it was available in quanity. Versamax is priced at the level of a the B guns but cant compete with them when it comes to quality. Compare an A400, Vinci, Maxus to a Versamess! I take a Mossberg 930 over a Versamax anyday.

 

[PJR]

Were I in this position I would shoot the gun to see what problems it might have. It is very possible that your CTi works as advertised. Why not find out? If it works enjoy it.

If not then I'd be tempted to part the gun out. If Remington isn't supporting the gun with spares then the parts might be worth more than the complete gun to the people who do own these guns and like them.

It is an absolute disgrace that Remington isn't supporting the owners of this gun. It's not like it was discontinued decades ago but less than two years ago. Remington's conduct of late is a stain on what was once a respected name in firearms and I wouldn't touch one of their current products with a barge poll.

 

[dho3]

I am just not sure whether to shoot it, sell it or trade it. I am too disappointed with Remington as a company for their various problems and will never buy another one of their products, at least brand new one, until they demonstrate change. I bought this shotgun as it was advertised as the great succesor to the 1100 and 1187 that was going to put them in contention with the 3 Bs. Now they have left all those who bought them high and dry. I could go on about their other guns, but I think for now I think I am going to stick to the topic and wait for the Weatherby Entre Rios 28 gauge to hit the market and take a look at it. It is basically suppose to be a Beretta 3 series made in Turkey and if I could trade for one I would feel fine. Or I could save my money and make a trade for a fine English made side by side sometime in the futrue. Will see.

 

[oneounceload]

I think I am going to stick to the topic and wait for the Weatherby Entre Rios 28 gauge to hit the market and take a look at it. It is basically suppose to be a Beretta 3 series made in Turkey and if I could trade for one I would feel fine. Or I could save my money and make a trade for a fine English made side by side sometime in the futrue. Will see.

Why not just get the Browning or Beretta then?

 

[dho3]

I really want a 28 gauge semi-auto and I do not believe Browning or Beretta makes one. Regardless, Browning shotguns in my opinion are not pretty to look at and Berettas are too expensive as you pay a premium for the name.

 

[oneounceload]

Berettas are too expensive as you pay a premium for the name.

Then you must really hate Benelli..........you aren't paying a premium for a name, you're paying for their gas gun - a gun good enough to win the Sporting Clays national Championships a few times - not something a lesser-quality gun can typically handle

 

[eastbank]

remington 1100,s in 28ga are available. eastbank.