Remington 700 ADL COCKING SEQUENCE

[stubby]

Thought this might be of interest to other 700 owners. I bought a new 700 this past fall for the deer season. The rifle was nicely finished and I was very happy with it until I discovered the following "problem". While dry firing to get a feel for the trigger, I found that the firing pin would not stay cocked properly unless the bolt is withdrawn slightly. Let me explain, if the mechanism has been fired, I lift the bolt handle which cocks the firing pin as usual. If I hold the handle against the receiver and then lower the handle, the firing pin will follow the hande down to the fired position. If I repeat the sequence but withdraw the bolt a 1/16th of an inch while the bolt handle is in the raised position, I hear a "click" and the firing pin will stay cocked when the bolt handle is pushed back down to the normal position. The safety operates normally. I have had dozens of Remington rifles over the years and have never encountered this "problem" before. No big deal but unusual in my experience. I e-mailed Remington and explained what I was observing. They directed me to send the rifle in for examination/repair. I did as they directed, including a copy of the e-mail correspondence as well as another note explaining my concerns, costing me $22.00 for postage and insurance. Three weeks later, the rifle was returned. I opened the box and found the rifle to function exactly as it had when I sent it to them. There was a note from Remington packed with the rifle which explained that it is "normal function" to withdraw the bolt to load another round. No Kidding!!! SOOOO, I call Remington Customer Service and again explain what appeares to me to be a malfunction. The customer servce rep again tells me that this proper function. Does your 700 Reington do the same thing???????

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Almost EVERY---Model 700 I've handled in the last 5 years does that---not all---but most.

Its not a problem---its just too bad they wouldn't refund your shipping money.

 

[Soap]

I have two 700s, both of them do the same thing that your ADL does.

I fail to see how this is a problem in the slightest bit however.

 

[Nero Steptoe]

I don't see a problem, either. It's just a shame that whoever you talked with at Rem. the first time didn't just tell you that it was normal. I've worked on a couple of dozen 700's in the past two ro three years; some work like yours, others will cock and hold it by just raising and lowering the bolt.

 

[stubby]

Well at least I can rest assured that this is normal. I am very fussy about my guns and having one that is not functioning properly bugs me to no end. Obsessive/compulsive I guess Thanks for the replys

 

[cratz2]

We told you it was working properly before... It is unfortunate that Remington didn't say so clearly before you shipped it to them.

Like I said over on TFL, I think that if the sear engagement screw is set exactly correctly, it will not keep the pin back without rearward bolt travel.

So after all this hullabalou, how does she shoot?

 

[Badger Arms]

The lifting of the bolt handle does indeed withdraw the striker, however you must still engage the sear with the striker.

 

[Jim K]

Hi, Stubby,

FWIW, I have three early Model 700's and they all work the way you (and I) think they should. The cocking cam draws the striker back far enough that the sear will engage without bolt movement. I will check a friend's late rifle if I think of it.

It looks to me like one of their mods goofed things up and they want to call it "normal".

Jim

 

[PATH]

I never paid much attention to my ADL. I loaded it and it worked.
I just went over to my ADL and I'll be darned if it doesn't do exactly the same thing yours does. I never had a problem with firing it. I don't know if it really causes any problems. I have never had any problems with my 700 ADL.

 

[Mal H]

I've got an early model 700 ADL also and it is working properly, that is , the firing pin stays cocked and the bolt doesn't have to be pulled back at all.

I think Jim's assessment is correct, some engineering change created the problem which they are calling a non-problem. In reality it isn't a problem as such, only a mechanical idiosyncrasy.

 

[BigG]

I call it a defect. Should cock on handle lift and stay cocked.

 

[Nero Steptoe]

"I call it a defect. Should cock on handle lift and stay cocked."

What are the circumstances such that you'd want to be able to cock the rifle but not retract the bolt?? Even if you only want to dryfire, what difference does it make if you have to move the bolt rearward 1/2" or so??

 

[BigG]

Just my preference. They all used to work like that. Why the change?