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Remington 799 Mauser - What are these?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by woof, Jul 23, 2007.

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  1. woof

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    These are apparently Mauser 98 actions but from where and when? What about the barrels? Does this seem strange to anyone else that Remington is doing this? or have I just been in a cave? It intrigues me because it is in 7.62x39, a cartridge I like to shoot. But it seems like the CZ 527 Carbine is the better buy. Anyone?
     
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    In 2006 Remington Arms, America's oldest gun maker, began importing barreled actions based on traditional Mauser type actions. These barreled actions are made for Remington by Zastava Arms of Serbia, one of the most experienced (in business since 1853) of the Eastern European arms companies. Zastava Oruzje has been manufacturing Mauser Model 98 actions since 1928. The Zastava barreled actions are then stocked in American made laminated hardwood stocks and marketed as the Remington Models 798 and 799.

    http://www.chuckhawks.com/remington_798_799_rifles.htm

    Not strange at all, accounting found a cost effective supplier and went with them...

    Yay, score for the bean counters... winter holiday bonuses, profit up, share holders happy.... {/sarcasm...
     
  3. ArmedBear

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    Zastava.

    They were imported by Charles Daly, with different stocks.

    http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/civilni.htm

    798 is a "Yugo Mauser"; 799 is a "Mini Mauser"

    The stock on the 799 is supposed to be bulky.

    527 would certainly be my choice.
     
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    Put a Winchester style 3-position safety on them, and I might buy one.
     
  6. ArmedBear

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    A Winchester style stock, too.
     
  7. woof

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    Thanks. The Chuck Hawks article was interesting, especially his comment that the 7.62x39 is obsolete. Seems to me it is getting more popular everyday as people discover its value as a light but capable sporting cartridge and more guns are chambered for it. Soon we will probably see compact guns for the 6.5x39 "Grendel" and how far off can a 6mm version be? Anyway, after reading his article on the 799, I have to think the cz carbine is the better choice.
     
  8. ArmedBear

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    It is an obsolete military cartridge.

    So is the .30-06, and even the .308.

    They're sort of, like, still around.:)
     
  9. phantomak47

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    I did some research about people who owned/handled these guns and got a lot of mixed reviews.

    I thought Hawks comment about the mauser action vs. the 700 was interesting.

    If my rifle absolutely, positively had to work in the most difficult circumstances, I'd choose the Model 798 over a Model 700 every time. Its controlled feed action makes double feed jams impossible and will reliably feed a cartridge into the chamber with the rifle held in any orientation, or while being swung to engage a new target. The 798 also has a larger loading port, making a fast field reload easier and more certain. The advantages that make the 798 superior for the most critical big game hunting applications also make it superior when deer season rolls around.
     
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    They were a lot less expensive when Charles Daly imported them...

    Now they're not...

    Forrest
     
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    it is NOT
    It is still a standard issue cartridge in Russian military (although mostly in non-infantry units), and still is primary standard issue caliber in Finland and a score of other countries.
     
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    I'd have to agree, x39 is about as obsolete as the AK-47, which a large portion of the world packs. While mother Russia did go to the 5.45x39, I thought I'd heard that some of the special ops had started carrying x39 again due to better terminal performance of the heavier round out of short barrels. That said, I also think the 7.62x39 in a bolt gun would make an interesting brush rifle.... cheap practice ammo too.
     
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    It is not obsolete by any means, neither is the 308,they are alive and well,I would expect comments like that from a K state.
     
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    Given the smallish price diff I'd have to agree.
    +1

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    Pretty much sums up my opinion on them as well.
     
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    They say that 7.62x54R is obsolete too.....
     
  17. ArmedBear

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    Funny. I keep expecting people to understand the most obvious irony. Oh well.

    Well, I guess that's what we expect from flyover states?:rolleyes:

    WRT Chuck Hawks, why not skip both those guns and get a CZ, though?

    One issue with the 799 is that it has a bulky stock for a mini-mauser. The CZ is sleek and correctly sized. The 798 doesn't have this issue, really, but why not cut out the middleman anyway?
     
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