MrTuffPaws
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I have a 16ga Remington copy of a Browning Auto 5 that I got from my uncle. On the bolt is "The Sprotsman" Other than being a copy of the Browning Auto 5, does anyone know anything about this type of gun.
Remington copy of Browning Auto 5?
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The Remington Model 11 was around for quite some time. (1911 - 1948)
Remington and Savage both produced guns that were built off the Browning A5 pat. (including royalties to Browning)
They were of good quality with some slight variation from the Browning guns so most of the parts are not interchangable between manufactures.
Early guns may have short chambers and should be checked before firing. The ones I have seen marked with Sportsman on the bolt have been later production units and should have the full length chamber but it is better to check it out before firing.
Remington and Savage both produced guns that were built off the Browning A5 pat. (including royalties to Browning)
They were of good quality with some slight variation from the Browning guns so most of the parts are not interchangable between manufactures.
Early guns may have short chambers and should be checked before firing. The ones I have seen marked with Sportsman on the bolt have been later production units and should have the full length chamber but it is better to check it out before firing.
The Remington Sportsman Model 11 has a shorter magazine and forearm to lighten the weight. This gun should only have a 3 shot capacity; 1 in barrel and two in magazine. They are a fine gun and the equal of the American made Browning A5. They do not have the Browning magazine cutoff and the barrels don't interchange with the Brownings either.
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I think this has been posted before, but just in case:
http://www.remington.com/magazine/history/m11.htm
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THE SPORTSMAN
A significant modification of the original five shot design resulted with the introduction of Remington product engineer C.C. Loomis' three shot "The Sportsman" version of the Model 11 in 1930. This gun was added to the lineup as wildlife conservation became of greater concern to sportsmen and the population at large. The Sportsman was identical to the Model 11 in all respects with the exception of the two-shell capacity magazine and a greatly modified forend.
The Sportsman model was originally rolled marked on the left side of the receiver as such. Similarly the Model 11 receiver was marked Model 11. In 1938 the receiver model roll marking was discontinued on both models and replaced by "Model 11" or "The Sportsman," as appropriate, stamped on the bolt in large letters which could easily be seen through the ejection port when the bolt was closed.
The most significant new feature of The Sportsman, other than its three shell capacity, was its new hand filling beavertail forend, liked by some and despised by others. This forend was much larger in cross section (2.04" vs. 1.68" in 12 ga) than the regular Model 11. This design and the patented takedown screw securing it to the magazine tube was designed by C.C. Loomis with the patent assigned to Remington. The takedown screw on The Sportsman provided the same function as the magazine cap on the Model 11.
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http://www.remington.com/magazine/history/m11.htm
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THE SPORTSMAN
A significant modification of the original five shot design resulted with the introduction of Remington product engineer C.C. Loomis' three shot "The Sportsman" version of the Model 11 in 1930. This gun was added to the lineup as wildlife conservation became of greater concern to sportsmen and the population at large. The Sportsman was identical to the Model 11 in all respects with the exception of the two-shell capacity magazine and a greatly modified forend.
The Sportsman model was originally rolled marked on the left side of the receiver as such. Similarly the Model 11 receiver was marked Model 11. In 1938 the receiver model roll marking was discontinued on both models and replaced by "Model 11" or "The Sportsman," as appropriate, stamped on the bolt in large letters which could easily be seen through the ejection port when the bolt was closed.
The most significant new feature of The Sportsman, other than its three shell capacity, was its new hand filling beavertail forend, liked by some and despised by others. This forend was much larger in cross section (2.04" vs. 1.68" in 12 ga) than the regular Model 11. This design and the patented takedown screw securing it to the magazine tube was designed by C.C. Loomis with the patent assigned to Remington. The takedown screw on The Sportsman provided the same function as the magazine cap on the Model 11.
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KarbineKrazy
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I think numberich has a conversion with the right forearm and mag tube to make a it a standard 5 shot.
I have a Model 11 modified riot gun style w/ a 19 inch barrel and extended mag. I love the safety, but I have the way you have to press the button to feed shells into the magazine. Think I will get myself a regular A5 magnum eventually.
I have a Model 11 modified riot gun style w/ a 19 inch barrel and extended mag. I love the safety, but I have the way you have to press the button to feed shells into the magazine. Think I will get myself a regular A5 magnum eventually.
When JMB severed his relationship with Winchester over their refusal to pay royalties on the Automatic Shotgun, he took his design to FN who had already built a couple million pistols for him. Around WWI, IIRC, when the supplies were cut off from Europe, he had Rem manufacture his SG. The same was true of the "American Brownings" - they were built by Remington.
Gordon
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AND Browning had all the A-5 Models made by Remington during war years! I have a beautiful 'American Browning' made 1941 that is as good as the FN browning made after war and prior to 59 or so when they retooled the plant. The American Brownings only differ in safety design and slightly different engraving pattern. Haveing had the Rem model 11 and the American Browning side by side: the Browning is true to original design (like my 29 FN Browning) and is finished to a little higher standard than the model 11. 
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