Remington R1 Pre-Order

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Hey guys,

I got an email today giving me a chance to pre-order the upcoming Remington R1 for $620. I know there's been a bit of discussion about this pistol, I wanted to ask how much you guys think this pistol is worth.

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I actually didn't even know this pistol was being released. News to me.

But I think $620 sounds fair, assuming a forged slide and frame with minimal MIM parts usage.

It's not like it's an actual original from 1918. It's just a remake. It has nothing that would command a price higher than $620-ish. Personally, I'd take a SA Mil-Spec for the same price because I'm not a big fan of series 80 trigger pulls and quality control on newly released guns is never good.

Just my 2 cents.
 
The article I just read said they would be in shops within weeks. You should be able to fondle one soon. I think $620 would be an O.K. price.
 
and quality control on newly released guns is never good.
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I agree, but it seems totally counter-intuitive. If you were the manufacturer, don't you think you'd want the first ones to be the best ones so that you could build the hype?
 
I don't think we know enough about the new Remington 1911 to know whether $620 is a good or bad price. Other than the magazine photo, the facts seem to be sparse. If it's a forged slide and frame made in the U.S. then it's a good price. If it's really an import from Turkey or Philippines made with cast frame then it's a bad price.
 
Personally, I'd take a SA Mil-Spec for the same price because I'm not a big fan of series 80 trigger pulls and quality control on newly released guns is never good.
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Do we know that it has a firing pin block? I haven't turned up that much info on it yet. I'm very interested, and as MAKster said:

If it's a forged slide and frame made in the U.S. then it's a good price.
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Do we know that it has a firing pin block? I haven't turned up that much info on it yet. I'm very interested, and as MAKster said:
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Yes, according to their PR release it has a Colt 80-style f.p. block. They also say it's just like it's true to the original design, and with a flat mainspring housing and a short trigger. Oops, guess they forgot to look at the original design!

I'll come back with a link to the PR when I can find it. Here it is:

Link w/photo: http://www.ammoland.com/2010/04/22/remington-1911-r1-handgun/

Madison, NC –-(AmmoLand.com)- After almost a century, the Model 1911 R1 marks the Remington brand’s return to the manufacture of the legendary 1911 handgun.

In 1917, the U.S. Ordnance Department issued an order to Remington-UMC to manufacture 500,000 1911s for our fighting men in the armed services.

The first Remington-UMC produced 1911 pistols were delivered in August of 1918. On November 11, 1918, the Armistice ending WWI was signed and the contract from the Ordnance Department with Remington-UMC was suspended. In all, Remington-UMC produced 21,677 1911s.

You could say the 1911 was firmly implanted in our DNA, and now after 91 years, its back.

The Remington-branded 1911 R1 is an A1 variant of the 1911 with modern upgrades. Like the original 1911, the 1911 R1 has a flat mainspring housing, short trigger and double diamond grips. 1911 devotees will appreciate the modern enhancements on the 1911 R1, such as a flared and lowered ejection port; beveled magazine well; loaded chamber indicator; high profile dovetailed single-dot front and two-dot rear sights; a crisp 3.5 – 5 pound trigger pull; and a match grade stainless steel barrel and barrel bushing.

It also has the Series 80-style firing pin block safety. The Remington 1911 R1 will be shipped in a custom carry case with two seven-round magazines and a barrel bushing wrench. Most importantly, it’s made in Ilion, New York, with all the pride, precision and out-of-the-box performance you have come to expect from the Remington brand.

The 1911 is the most customized and proven pistol design ever manufactured. This single-action, semi-automatic, magazine-fed, recoil-operated handgun chambered for the 45 ACP cartridge has left its mark on battlefields and at competitions all over the world.

On March 29th, 1911, this John M. Browning designed pistol was selected as the official sidearm of America’s Armed Forces. It was their standard-issue sidearm from 1911 to 1985 and is still used by some U.S. forces to this day. On May 14, 2010, the Remington 1911 R1 will be unveiled at the 139th National Rifle Association Annual Meetings in Charlotte, North Carolina, and will help this iconic American pistol shine brighter than ever.

Initially, the Remington 1911 R1 will be available through select independent dealers beginning in June 2010. Make it a point today, to own a part of history, the first Remington 1911 in 91 years.
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Yes, according to their PR release it has a Colt 80-style f.p. block.
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OK. They're easily removed anyway. I have on my Colts, and just installed a 70 series FP spring.

They also say it's just like it's true to the original design, and with a flat mainspring housing and a short trigger. Oops, guess they forgot to look at the original design!
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Well.........That's kinda accurate, if we're talking about one feature being true the the M1911 and the other to the M1911A1. lol.

Regardless, all I'm holding out for on my decision to get one is whether or not they are truly made in the U.S.A.
 
Regardless, all I'm holding out for on my decision to get one is whether or not they are truly made in the U.S.A.
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Yes, I think that's the only smart thing to do. At that price point, I'd have to think they are using Ruger castings for their frames and maybe slide, too. Nothing terribly wrong with that; I would just want to know what I was buying up front.

Another post elsewhere said the newest edition of Shooting Times had a review and it had a number of jams throughout a 2,000 round test. I'm not a subscriber but perhaps someone who is can check the article?
 
At that price point, I'd have to think they are using Ruger castings for their frames and maybe slide
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Ruger? That'd be wierd. Of all the strange subcontracting, merging and conglomerating going on lately in the gun industry, that's not one I'd envisioned. However, if it's gonna be cast, there's not a company in the world who has a better facility and technique than Ruger when it comes to gun parts.
 
The article in American Rifleman said the price was going to be $699
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I haven't read the article in AR but I would guess that was the MSRP. I for one have never paid anywhere near the MSRP for a new gun. I would guess the street value to be about $100 less than MSRP. That being said I think most of us would agree that Remington makes good quality firearms.
 
Ruger? That'd be wierd. Of all the strange subcontracting, merging and conglomerating going on lately in the gun industry, that's not one I'd envisioned.
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Over decades Ruger has cast the original blanks that are used in Caspians, and I think even some early Wilson's, Baer's, and others. Maybe it's all forged, but that would be a little surprising. I don't know a $600 or cheaper retail gun that is both forged and US made; I think it would be pretty hard to do unless they are taking a loss or break-even approach to get them out into the market, and then planning a price increase later.

The article in American Rifleman said the price was going to be $699. If you really want it, I'd say your getting a little bit of a deal at $620.
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I think you'll be getting the same price or a little more than where the actual "street" price works out. Most people using retail distribution points always print an MSRP above where their dealers will actually sell it to make them "feel good." Usually "street" retail settles about 85% to 90% of MSRP. $620 is 88% of the stated MSRP.
 
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