Removing carbon? stains from SS cylinders

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I have a S&W 629 classic, .44 mag that I love. Except cleaning it. The outside of the cylinder gets a bad carbon/powder stain at all six bullet locations that bore cleaners really don't remove well. I can get some off with some scrubbing but not all. Any recommendations?
 
That is a fact of life with revolvers. Flitz will take it off but why bother I think they look kind of cool. It is not worth the trouble of trying to remove it totally but it can be done.
 
Get one of those "Lead Cleaning Cloths" from Hoppe's or Birchwood. It contains some sort of chemical cleaner that easily buffs off the carbon fouling. I cut it up into little 1" squares to ration it out and will use maybe 2 squares to clean my S&W 686 after it gets a bit dirty. Do not use it on blued metal though as the chemical may strip off the finish.
 
Geez, its going to get them the next time you shoot it and you are not standing a US Marine Corps Command inspection. Leave it be and quite worrying about how "clean it is" save some money and time on cleaning and reload or read a book.
 
Brian Williams said:
Geez, its going to get them the next time you shoot it and you are not standing a US Marine Corps Command inspection. Leave it be and quite worrying about how "clean it is" save some money and time on cleaning and reload or read a book.

+1. I've got a Lead-Away cloth, Shooter's Choice and Hoppes #9 solvents, brass and bronze and stainless steel brushes, patches and Q-tips, rods, bore snakes...just no time. All I've been doing now is to brush off the crud and residue that will easily come off, wipe the guns down with a cloth to pick up anything else, and call it good. They'll just get dirty again anyways, since I shoot almost every day.

Maybe once a month I'll break down and give them all a good cleaning (Lead-Away for the stainless ones, Hoppes #9/Shooter's Choice for the blued ones), or if I know they're going in for some long-term storage, but other than that, I've stopped worrying about making them sparkling clean anymore.

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Get one of those "Lead Cleaning Cloths" from Hoppe's or Birchwood. It contains some sort of chemical cleaner that easily buffs off the carbon fouling. I cut it up into little 1" squares to ration it out and will use maybe 2 squares to clean my S&W 686 after it gets a bit dirty. Do not use it on blued metal though as the chemical may strip off the finish.

+1 on this, too--I find that a 1" square is enough to work on five or six revolvers, easy. If it doesn't dry out, it's good to work on maybe three more the next day with a bit of elbow grease.
 
Using lead-away or any type of polishing compound does actually take metal off the gun. Over a long period of time, this could increase the cylinder gap. I simply use a brush and Hoppes #9 on the carbon rings and leave them black. If you want to take photos or sell the gun, then you can aggressively clean.
 
There is no way those cloths remove metal.

Use the lead-away cloths. Been using it on my Ruger SRH for over 15 years. A few wipes and the marks are gone.
 
the one I just polished had them too, and the mothers mag polish took them right off, but I don't think I will be doing it regularly. Like kyjim said, I'll let it be until I want to take pics or show it off for some reason.
 
For SS only...

First, I remove my S&W's SS cylinder (One screw holds the yoke/cylinder - use the proper hollow-ground driver!). Time and different solvents may help. I alternate between Hoppes and Breakfree - work them in with a nylon brush - allow more time to soak - as you should for the barrel & cylinder bores. Clean the frame opening, etc, while you are waiting. The last cleaning should be with a stiff nylon or brass ((Not SS!) brush, then wipe away with a paper towel. The 'shadow' left will have no thickness and present no problems operationally.

Of course, I'm anal... a drop of Flitz or dab of Semichrome paste metal polish in the fold of a cotton swipe will do to return the original SS look to that cylinder exit face (Probably give that CS blued face a bare metal look - for a while - too!). In fact, a small swipe will actually do for 2-3 revolvers - it doesn't take much if you allow a solvent to do the majority of the work. The discoloration is much 'softer' than the SS cylinder face - so I am not worried about metal loss there. My range denizens/comerades marvel at my 'clean' revolvers. I generally clean cf revolvers every trip, too. I often think that folks like blued revolvers because they both don't show nastines as readily and you have to be so careful cleaning them, many just don't!

Some time back, I wanted to see just how filthified my 625JM could get and still function. I often bragged how it - and an ammo box of 'clipped homebrew ball ammo - was my Zombie protection. I got to over 800 rounds in a couple of months - only wiping the frame/barrel/muzzle a few times with a rag. It still worked fine... I just was too embarrassed to be seen with it so nasty - and cleaned it. Maybe I am being anal cleaning so much.

Stainz
 
I have used the Birchwood Casey Lead Remover Cloth with great success on my S&W686+. The burn rings can be completely removed using the cloth. A regular cleaning solvent after the Lead-Remover cloth removes the residual wax.

According to the MSDS the Birchwood Casey Lead Remover Cloth contains the following:
Aluminum Silicate, 50%
Light Mineral Oil, >35%
Lemon Oil with Yellow Dye, 4%
Wax, <10%
Ammonium Hydroxide, 1%

The Aluminum Silicate (CAS #1332-58-7) is actually Kaolin Clay, which is very soft and will not remove any stainless steel or the passivation layer on it. But as noted above it may remove your blueing.

Even though it is supposed to contain Ammonium Hydroxide there is no oder of ammonia so I don't think it's any sort of corrosion risk.

The residual wax/oil needs to be removed. Hoppe's #9 works well, and so does Hoppe's Elite.

Wrapping a piece of cloth around a bore brush is also effective at removing fouling inside the cylinder/chambers. I shoot a lot of .38 special in my .357 magnum and it helps clean up the chambers.

One word of caution regarding FLITZ polishing paste. The MSDS indicates that it contains "Solid Polishing Power" CAS# 1344-28-1 which is Aluminum Oxide. This is very hard (think corundum sand paper) and will remove the passivation layer and the stainless steel. So if you use FLITZ polishing paste I'd suggest you do so sparingly.
 
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Using lead-away or any type of polishing compound does actually take metal off the gun.

Where do people get this tripe? Using "Lead-Away" cloths does not remove metal. Just be sure you use them on stainless steel only. They will remove bluing.
 
Of course lead away and polish removes small amounts of metal. They contain abrasives. Why do you think you can't use them on blued guns? It removes the blue which is really just oxidized metal. In other words, it takes part of the metal off with the abrasives and the rubbing action. It does the same with stainless guns but it's harder to see. Will it cause a problem? Likely not. Can it cause a problem? It's within the realm of possibility over a long period of time.

I don't know if anyone is a fan of the Andy Griffith Show, but there's an episode where one of Barney's relatives polishes the keys to the jail cell. He polished them so fine, they would no longer turn the lock. That was obviously an exaggerated incident but abrasives do wear away metal. End of story.
 
I don't worry about minor carbon ringing unless it builds up so thickly as to retard cylinder rotation (very improbable). As mentioned, the various cleaning cloths will remove the ringing if you wish to sell or display the gun.
 
A stain is OK

;)Just because there's a stain outside the cylinder, that doesn't mean your gun isn't clean. The stains are natural byproducts of blasting ammo at high velocities, pressures, and temperatures. Once in a while I remove them, but mostly I like the "lived in" look.
 
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