Removing good primers from bad brass / ammo

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I had 500+ rounds of 30 Herrett loaded in 1983 that did not have the necks annealed before resizing. When the ammo was new, it shot 3/4" groups at a 100 yards with a Thompson Contender, 10" barrel. In the last 2 years, I've fired 40 rounds, and 39 cases split the necks. Group size at 100 yards was 7". The bullets were 100 grain .308 short jacket M1 carbine bullets that are devastating on prairie dogs.

I used an RCBS collet pullet puller to remove bullets, dumped powder into plastic bottle. I used a 25-06 sizer die with an extended decapping rod to gently push out the Federal or Winchester large rifle primer using my Dillon 550. I had a supply of once-fired, annealed, cut to length, resized 30-30 brass for new 30 Herrett brass. Almost every old case had a neck crack with very little neck tension. I removed the primer from the primer pocket, inserted it into the primer seater, placed a new case in the shell plate, and seated the old primer in the case.

I did not have single "primer event" -- BANG ! I have 20 rounds loaded to take to the range for accuracy testing in scoped 10" and 14" barrels. The 480+ pieces of primed brass will then be reloaded.

I have also removed primers that were seated upside down in hand gun ammo, reloading errors made by others, that have never fired when being pushed out. There is a small dimple in the primer cup. I have resized brass and seated these dimpled primers into a box of 50 rounds loaded ammo. 9 MM or 38 Spl rounds fired every time without any problems. I have probably removed 500+ inverted pistol primers without a problem.

At current inventory levels or prices for primers, I'm not throwing away a good primer that is in problematic brass. The primer can be recovered, and I have more time than primers or $$$.
 
I have also removed primers from dodgy rounds - lots of them. When you think about it, a firing pin striking a primer is a relatively high-energy event. Just use far less pressure than a firing pin.

Be prepared for the primer that will eventually ignite while pressing it out of the pocket. Go slow, use eye/ear pro.
 
The only primers that go off when getting pushed out (for me) are large pistol primers out of .45 ACP brass that has been lightly struck & has a dimple started. For some reason with the dimple & pushing out that large of an area it's too much pressure so they almost always go off.
I can push them out all day long without the dimple but with the light strike dimple it's a hazard. Primers do chain fire so keep all other primers or powder away from the primers you are pushing out.
Always wear eye & ear protection when pushing out live primers. Also don't assume that a .22lr that has been laying in the water has a dead primer. Just thought I would toss that in since we are talking about primers.
 
"You'll put your eye out, kid."

J/K. I've done it often. Just be very, very careful. And slow-w-w.
 
I have removed a few, here and there.
But doing 500+ ......Even if it saved $50.00, eventually the chances are high that something not good is gonna happen.
MY opinion is the $$ saved isn't worth the possible damage to equipment or to me.
Generally I would chamber the pulled round ( minus bullet and powder ) and fire it in a safe direction.
Just throwin' my $.02 in......
 
I've gone and screwed up a few rounds and when I do I always pull the bullet recover the powder and primer.

I use a lee decapper slow and deliberate, never had one go bang but I'm sure I will one day.
 
I tegularly get turned in ammo from the local PD to dispose of. Not knowing the history it is all broken down for usable componants. I will try the .22 one time first though.;) In all the years that I have been doing this I have never had a primer go off. Also I had a large crate of factory shotgun shells that had been submerged in water for some months. I let them dry oit for about a year and took some apart. Reclaimed everything but the rusty hulls and put the componants back in fired hulls. The propellant was clumped up so I broke it up with a pencil using the eraser end before putting it back in the replacment hull. Tried them and everything worked the same as factory test rounds. Some in 12 GA and some in 20GA. Reworked approximately 7K rounds and every one worked just like the factory ammo. Also all the reclaimed regular primers, in excess of 4K by now, have all worked for blasting ammo as long as I allowed them to dry out first. If you are comfortable reusing things like bullets, brass, and primers just use a known prioellant and do not load at max for a safe load. Just sayi'n.

For you guys that have sealed bullets that will not come loose put the brass in the press and put a straight edege or steel bar across the point of the press where the die would extend down and raise the round. Let the bullet tip catch and seat the bullet a bit deeper this will break the petrolatum seal. Then the bullet will come out easily.
 
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I have removed quite a few primers with no problems. I go slow and smooth and wear safety glasses, just because. I reuse the primers if I know what they are or if there are several that are the same. I've never had a problem doing that either but I don't use them for my hunting or match ammo.
 
I have thought about taking a roll pin or drilling out a drift punch to make decapping pin for this task. The idea being to push on the rim of the cup instead of the anvil. Any opinions about this?
 
I’ve deprimed lots of cases that I pulled the bullets and powder From. Just went slow and have never had a problem. Was talking to a Buddy (My Mentor) the other Day. He said He has deprimed a ton of bullets over the last 60 years and has never had one go boom.
 
I have done it with my s1050 and actually use regular pressure, I do run it a bit slower than the usual pace and I have a hose attached to a tube under the frame that I hold on to while decapping it so it doesn't go into the spent primer can and have never had a problem. I even search through the carpet when one drops with the scarcity these days.
 
I'm worried for all you folks blatantly stating you've never had an incident. I would never put that in writing, just like I would never say I've never crashed my motorcycle.

You're just jinxing yourselves!

;)

Oh, crap. Did I just say I've never crashed? I'm doomed.
 
I'm worried for all you folks blatantly stating you've never had an incident. I would never put that in writing, just like I would never say I've never crashed my motorcycle.
You're just jinxing yourselves!
;)
Oh, crap. Did I just say I've never crashed? I'm doomed.

Yes some do go off when trying to remove them. But if you prepare for it to go off it's no big deal. Like I said before primers do chain fire so don't be pushing out primers into a pile or down a tube because it only takes one to set them all off. Every time I push out a primer I separate it from the area I'm depriming.
 
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