usmarine0352_2005
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Rep. who passed guns in bars arrested for DUI and gun possession
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At least the law passed before this incident happened.
After reading the article I like this Rep. more and more.
At least the law passed before this incident happened.
After reading the article I like this Rep. more and more.
Bobson
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You're being sarcastic right? Its hard to tell on forums.
Purgatory
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Yep. And he'll get off -- he's a Politician.
They don't live in the same world the rest of us do.
usmarine0352_2005
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Bobson, no, he has a good opinion on some things.
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I don't condone his use of a vehicle while under the influence of alcohol. That is quite shameful.
This representative's incident could make it difficult for Tennessee to repeal this law, although from that quote, it doesn't appear that he's in violation of it as he had a .38 stashed away in the car and not on his person. I'm curious how the Tennessee law reads and if "carrying" or "possession" is well defined.
Granted, but he was not carrying one.
dannyr3_8
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one step forward and two back:banghead:
Miracle
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To clarify, it's not "guns in bars". It's guns in restaurants that serve alcohol.
Not here. I dunno about Texas, but we don't play footsie with out politicians over things like this.
If he was intoxicated enough that they didn't drive him home instead of booking him he'll end up convicted of the DUI and weapon charge.
While it is shameful that he drove under the influence there is no indication that he carried while drinking in a restaurant.
Having a loaded handgun accessible in your vehicle is illegal carry here in TN if you don't have a HCP or you're not otherwise exempt from having to have the permit. As a former LEO he's allowed to carry w/o an HCP so he's not in violation of the terms of the HCP.
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Bobson
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I agree, which is why I thought the OP was joking when he said, "After reading the article I like this Rep. more and more."one step forward and two back:banghead:
He may have passed a helpful law, but IMHO, he made things worse than they originally were by tarnishing any reputation he might have had as an upstanding pro-2A citizen, and made us all look like "gun-toting, drunken rednecks" at the same time.
usmarine0352_2005
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He made a mistake. It happens.
His actions may not of helped the cause but I highly doubt they will be a huge negative effect either.
I also wouldn't doubt if he gets off with a slap on the wrists.
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"As a former LEO he's allowed to carry w/o an HCP so he's not in violation of the terms of the HCP."
Now why would that be? Are they "super citizens"?
Sorry...Just irritated.
Now why would that be? Are they "super citizens"?
Sorry...Just irritated.
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I fail to see a problem with a person having a pistol in a place that serves alcohol if they are not drinking.
SARDiver
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Thanks, but I was referring to the logic/fairness of it, not the resolution number.
Purgatory
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So they 'ARE' Super Citizens!
Sorry, I just really like that Dub.
Good stuff.
Yes, but since the LEOSA protection is withdrawn when intoxicated there's no out there.
No, I don't think he's done more harm than good. That seems a bit of overreaction.
I do think that it will be quite a while before he will be able to do any good again. A DUI means several negatives here that won't be forgotten soon.
No, I don't think he's done more harm than good. That seems a bit of overreaction.
I do think that it will be quite a while before he will be able to do any good again. A DUI means several negatives here that won't be forgotten soon.
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I fully agree. Most of us have done dumb things we regret, myself included; but my driving under the influence was six years ago when I was 20. Is that an excuse? Absolutely not - I definitely knew better, but I was immature and didn't think out the consequences of my actions. Thankfully, the officer who stopped me in my dorm parking lot let me go with a thorough verbal smack-down, and it was more than enough to teach me my lesson. If he had booked me, I likely would have seen my dream career fly right out the window with that stupid decision.
You'd think a guy in his 40s, in a career like his, would have more common sense. But yes, I agree, we all make mistakes, and I'm sure I have more coming down the road. I can guarantee I'll never drink and get behind the wheel again though. It's just that he should be held to a higher standard - by himself at least, if no one else. More than anything else, he likely made irreparable damage to his reputation, and it's unfortunate that we may have lost the power of someone on our side, if you'll pardon the expression.
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I do not know about other states but in Texas you get busted with DUI and you can just about kiss $20,000 with a lot of hassle good bye for the next year or so bye bye. In Houston the bars on West 1960 closed at 2am and it seemed like every revenue agent in the city was there to bust and collect. If we went dancing I always made sure we left the area by 1am and never had a problem....But I really don't drink and get drunk; some of the stories and the quality of the test they give you kinda takes the fun out of partying if you are gonna drive afterwards.
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