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Which one?

  • ACR

    Votes: 10 12.3%
  • XCR

    Votes: 7 8.6%
  • AR-15

    Votes: 53 65.4%
  • Mini-14

    Votes: 11 13.6%

  • Total voters
    81
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I sent an e-mail to Bushmaster about the ACR and got this response

Thank you for inquiring about the new Bushmaster ACR rifle!



At this point in time we are in the testing stage of the rifle. We are hoping to have pricing by the middle of May, delivery currently scheduled in the late 2nd or early 3rd quarter this year. Final initial versions have not been determined at this point, it will be offered in 5.56mm with black coloration in the beginning. We have not determined other colors or other calibers at this point.

Don't know if anything new is in there but just thought I would put it out there. While I am on the topic of the ACR, I am in need of a semi-auto rifle and can't decide between this (assuming a resonable price), and AR-15, or and XCR. What do you guys think?
 
I shot an XCR recently and it was pretty cool. Felt balanced and was pretty accurate. It was on the range all day and functioned without issue. The owner had nothing but good to say about it. I worry about parts etc. though. Have you looked at other AR options with gas piston uppers? I have heard good things about LWRC, I would be curious what others experience has been, as I am in the market also.
 
Get an AR15 now.

You don't want to get one of the first-model-year rifles. You'll pay a premium to be the first on your block to get it and you will be one of the guinea pigs for the rifle.
 
Parts, knowledge, and support for the AR-15 are all readily available now. The XCR is still trying to establish itself. The ACR doesn't yet exist in production form. The Mini-14 just doesn't perform on the same level as an AR-15.
 
For a long time I wanted an XCR, after watching their board for a while, I'll pass.

They've been having some issues:

Ejectors coming loose
Trigger reset
Loose gas blocks
Cratered primers/bolt issues
Heavy trigger

I believe something like 6 of them have been in Pat Rogers carbine classes and 3 have survived. Before buying one, spend some time here and read up on what the owners have to say:

http://xcrforum.com/index.php?PHPSES...42d&board=30.0

In addition to the issues the rifles have been having, the owner is sort of a clown. First there was his support for Romney, then there's the way he treats his customers, like they're idiots. This is one of his posts explaining that there's nothing wrong with the XCR trigger, just that his customers don't know how to shoot:


Here's what we found which is really quite interesting. I was at a trade show where I watched a certain customer who was pulling right through the second stage of our current trigger as though it was not two-stage. He simply could not find the second stage if his life depended on it. I grabbed the rifle and could easily find the second stage. Here's what I learned.

The customer was using the pad of his index finger rather than the joint to pull the trigger. I found that those using the pad of the index finger have much less control. So if the trigger is a little stiff, they simply pull right past the second stage. Most of the shooters who don't like our trigger are using their pads.

I couldn't make this kind of chit up, it's a direct lift from here:

http://xcrforum.com/index.php/topic,759.0.html

Kolob is Alex Robinson.

Lastly, there's the RA M96 which was their last great design, pretty good rifle really, but when they didn't sell, they dropped them completely, no spare parts, no support.

The XCR is a pretty cool design, but it's also a 7.5lb carbine sans sights etc. They also have a recommended 300 round "break-in" which is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing on a "combat" rifle.

Spend some time on their board before buying, there are some other rifles coming down the pike with similar features without the RA baggage.

Chuck
 
The AR has a lot going for it. One can be had in nearly any configuration imaginable, parts are easy to come by, magazines are plentiful and reasonable.

I can't comment on the ACR or XCR, but for me, there would have to be a lot of advantages over the AR to justify spending more since the AR is common and proven.

The Mini 14 is a cool gun, used to have one, but when it came time to get another rifle in 5.56, it came up miserably short in the magazine department.
 
I already have a Bushy AR and I plan on getting th ACR when its released, I want one so badly I'm like a child the night before Christmas. Still I have to agree with others on here, you can't go wrong with an AR, the ACR is just something new and exciting to me. Ever since I saw the Masada featured on Future Weapons I fell head over heels in love and when I heard Bushmaster was going to produce it I nearly cried with joy. Simply put I want an ACR AND I WANT ONE NOW!!!

To answer your question more bluntly I say get an AR now buy an ACR down the line, you can never own too many EBR's:D
 
i say get the ar now as well, i normally wait a year or so before getting a new gun on the market. let them get the bugs out etc.
 
i cant tell you which rifle will be the most accurate, most reliable, rifle you will ever own.

but there is a very good chance it will begin with AR, and end with 15.

i dont even shoot my robinson any more.
 
i guess i'm in the minority. i'm going to sell my Bushy M4 and get and ACR when they are available. i'll be the guinea pig as long as the warranty is 12 months or greater. as soon as a local shop gets one that has the 18" barrel and folding/retractable stock, i'm in.

i'm willing to take the chance before the next AWB rears its ugly head. whenever i get my paws on one, range reports will follow immediately.

Bobby
 
Bushmaster XR-15

I shoot USPSA 3-Gun and Multi-Gun matches. Started with a very old Mini-14 without a proper scope mount, iron sights and old eyes are not a good combination. Went to a Daewoo DR-200, it was a very fussy feeder, hated most magazines. Finally got a Bushmaster XR-15 V-Model, haven't found a magazine that won't work, or a cartridge to cheap to fire. At a hundred yards mine has about a two inch difference in the grouping between cheap ammo and the higher priced spread.
 
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