Repo M1A1 Carbine stock

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Jack Package

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I got a repo M1A1 carbine stock awhile back from Fulton Armory and after a couple months the lock up got loose and the stock now wiggles when its locked out. I have gotten use to shooting it but its just gotten annoying. Been thinking about replacing it but I want to get a good one that will last a hot minute. I heard Auto Ordnance has some and have looked around. Should I just replace the teeth that lock up? If I remember correctly is one of the bottom plates on the bottom of the pistol grip that is worn. The stock itself is still in great shape wood still looks great after "paratrooping" in the woods with it. Any input would be appreciated.
 
What are you saying? Never saw a gun with teeth and what exactly is paratrooping?
 
Jack, the first thing I'd do is get back to Fulton.... It might be the stock or it might be another problem. I'll let others chime in about the best outfit for another stock -but the last place I'd look is Auto Ordnance (Kahr)....
 
The ones I've had can be tightened at the screw on top/rear.
I "pulled the trigger" on the ones being offered by SARCO last weekend. $129 free shipping. Hoping it is as nice as the other Italian ones I've had. Have one that I bought through Numrich a while back, and it's nice and fits well.

"Paratrooping", I take it, is carrying it with stock folded in the woods. Otherwise, what else does the paratrooper name mean? ;)
 
"Paratrooping" is what some crazy people do when while away up high they don't realize the aircraft is not on fire but they jump out anyway. snicker.
Fulton not have a warrantee? Says "life time" on their site for stuff they made.
Gunparts is listing a non-folding parastock at $185.35(kind of steep, not as much as Fulton's). No mention of the maker.
 
The "teeth" are properly called the hinge locking lugs on the stock extension assembly and the seat for hinge locking lugs in the lower hinge nut. But they do look like gear teeth, don't they?

Short version: careful disassembly, inspection, cleaning and reassembly can improve the working of a M1A1 folding stock.


Teal Deer version: I bought an M1A1 folding stock for my 1943 IBM M1 Carbine just to have an option (when I bought the carbine it came with a M2 "potbelly" stock).

I bought the folder at a gunshow, used but good condition, no brandname; I suspect it was an Italian replica and I paid about half the new retail price. The wood was nice looking.

I actually folded it only if needed (as when I carried the gun on an ATV) but eventually the hinge got loose. I decided to fix the stock in open position with a wood screw in the bottom of the stock to block folding. I used it several years as a fixed stock.

As part of this year's cleaning and preservation for winter storage, I followed US Army Tech Manual TM 9-1276 / USAF Tech Order TO 39A-5AD-2, Section XI. Disassembly, Inspection and Reassembly of Stock Group - Carbine M1A1.

Inspection. I made sure the recoil plate which the receiver hooks into at the rear of the stock was square with the hook on the rear of the receiver and retightened the grip screw. The grip screw ties the recoil plate, stock and pistol grip together. It is a wood screw so you have to be careful about over-tightening and stripping the wood of the grip.

I cleaned and inspected all metal parts. I found some wear but not much on the hinge locking lugs on the stock extension assembly and the seat for hinge locking lugs in the lower hinge nut. I scrubbed everything clean with an old toothbrush and Mobile 1 oil and wiped leaving a thin coat of oil.

I found that the sheet metal recoil plate cap sides were splayed. I pinched them so the cap was a snap fit over the recoil plate and the cap sides and rear were flush with the stock. The long hinge screw goes through the cap and screws into the lower hinge nut.

I reassembled everything and noticed the locking spring washer was laying on the carpet at my feet. Disassembly and reassembly require patience, properly fitting screwdrivers, and due attention to the instructions in the TM/TO.

Once I got everything back together the second time, paying attention to fit of parts and tightness of screws, the stock locked open without looseness or wobble, and locked closed without looseness or wobble. I did not reinstall my fixing screw.
 
"Paratrooping..."

I too have heard Air Force guys wonder about those Army guys who parachute out of perfectly functioning aircraft. ???? Must be something added to the food in Army mess halls.
 
"Paratrooping..."

I too have heard Air Force guys wonder about those Army guys who parachute out of perfectly functioning aircraft. ???? Must be something added to the food in Army mess halls.

Nah, it's the weight of all the gear. If you've ever stood hooked up and waiting to jump with a full combat load all you want to do is get out the door to make the agonizing pain stop. Sure beats walking as though. Infantry only has 4 options to get to the battlefield: walk, jump, truck or helo. Depending on the particulars all can be equally miserable.
 
Mark H.

I have a similar stock from Butler Creek on my Ruger 10/22 and it still locks opens and closes like a bank vault. Solid and dependable after all these years of use without the slightest bit of wiggle or movement. It's too bad they don't make one for the M1 Carbine but good to see that Choate still offers one for it.

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Strambo,

We used Diesel LPCs..........Leather Personel Carriers and Deese'll get you there while you "keep on trucking."

Also on helos......."Do not exit the aircraft until the skids are on the ground and forward motion has stopped" Twenty minutes later while twelve feet in the air and still doing ten miles an hour forward and above high grass obscuring the ground......."GET OUT OF MY AIRCRAFT NOW!!!!!"

As to carbines in the civilian world, I rather liked the look of the MP40-ish folders and the feel of Federal's old three legged version of the same. Not a proper M1A1 historically but high "cool factor." Always seemed the perfect "truck gun" for folks driving cars instead of trucks.

The commercial non M1A1 folders seemed to fold to the wrong side to me.

-kBob
 
Well, I guess I'll have to post a photo of a US Carbine cal. .30 in an M1A1 stock since that is what the OP is about: this is from the Wikipedia commons
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The butt hinges to the left. That leaves the controls (safety, magazine catch, operating handle) free.
 
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