Hi all,
This is my first post to the forum, though I've been reading it for a while.
I'm having a custom 6mm/244 AI built for me, and with the help of the gunsmith I've pulled together all (I think) the equipment I need to start resizing my brass. Since I have a few months before the gun is ready I wanted to get my feet wet and work on some of the fresh Norma 7x57 brass I purchased. (Note: I realize that 6mm Remington is the easiest to use for this application, but I wanted to work with the great Norma brass to create consistent loads)
So here's my problem - and it probably applies to any necking-down operation. Based on my smith's instructions, I'm taking the neck from 7mm to 6mm in two steps - first is with a Forster 6.5x284 FL die, and next is using a Redding 6mm/244 AI bushing die. The problem is that after coming out of the first die, the neck has three things wrong with it:
1) The lip is no longer pependicular to the case (ie, one side is higher than the other)
2) It's bent like a banana (related to #1 I'm sure)
3) The neck is no longer concentric to the case.
When I watch the lip of the case touch the inside of the first die (I removed the decapper and peered inside) I can barely see the thickness of the brass. So, that interference with the die is compressing the neck before it pops through. This can't be good.
I did take a couple test cases a few steps further, trimming and turning them, but the concentricity is still off, which will certainly screw things up once on of these tries to find its way into the chamber. I can see how fireforming would correct most of these issues, but it seems I should be able to do a better job off the bat.
Basically I'm looking for advice on what I might be doing wrong - or not doing at all - that I could change to make this work better for me. I've enclosed a picture (actually a combination of pictures) to show what my case looks like at various stages.
Thanks in advance for your help.
This is my first post to the forum, though I've been reading it for a while.
I'm having a custom 6mm/244 AI built for me, and with the help of the gunsmith I've pulled together all (I think) the equipment I need to start resizing my brass. Since I have a few months before the gun is ready I wanted to get my feet wet and work on some of the fresh Norma 7x57 brass I purchased. (Note: I realize that 6mm Remington is the easiest to use for this application, but I wanted to work with the great Norma brass to create consistent loads)
So here's my problem - and it probably applies to any necking-down operation. Based on my smith's instructions, I'm taking the neck from 7mm to 6mm in two steps - first is with a Forster 6.5x284 FL die, and next is using a Redding 6mm/244 AI bushing die. The problem is that after coming out of the first die, the neck has three things wrong with it:
1) The lip is no longer pependicular to the case (ie, one side is higher than the other)
2) It's bent like a banana (related to #1 I'm sure)
3) The neck is no longer concentric to the case.
When I watch the lip of the case touch the inside of the first die (I removed the decapper and peered inside) I can barely see the thickness of the brass. So, that interference with the die is compressing the neck before it pops through. This can't be good.
I did take a couple test cases a few steps further, trimming and turning them, but the concentricity is still off, which will certainly screw things up once on of these tries to find its way into the chamber. I can see how fireforming would correct most of these issues, but it seems I should be able to do a better job off the bat.
Basically I'm looking for advice on what I might be doing wrong - or not doing at all - that I could change to make this work better for me. I've enclosed a picture (actually a combination of pictures) to show what my case looks like at various stages.
Thanks in advance for your help.