Restaurant Security Glad That Customer Needed A Handgun To Buy A Cheeseburger

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With the high-profile controversy over Open Carry in California right now, South Bay Open Carry member and former US Marine, Christopher Hacopian, shows Assemblyman Anthony Portantino why a common, law-abiding Californian might need a handgun to buy a cheeseburger. The Assemblymember's empty, anti-gun rhetoric holds no water when challenged with reality.

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-...stomer-needed-a-handgun-to-buy-a-cheeseburger
 
Fact of the matter is, I don't think there has been a single injury or death caused by a lawful open carrier in California. They are rushing to ban a practice for safety reasons that hasn't caused any safety issues.

It's ridiculous to me that the antis can make outlandish claims about the problems that might result from open carriers when they are definitively proven wrong each passing day that the practice continues. It's like worrying the sky might turn green even though they look up everyday and see its still blue.
 
As stated in the newspaper article, there is currently a proposed law in California to prohibit the open carry of a sidearm, even though the current law allows open carry but requires that there is no round in the chamber. Now how this current law pertains to a revolver is beyond me.

As a teenager while hunting in California and in the cafe while to and from home, we open carried. But we are talking the mid 50's.

Things do change. Let's hope the pendulum starts to swing back the other way in the Golden State.
 
As stated in the newspaper article, there is currently a proposed law in California to prohibit the open carry of a sidearm, even though the current law allows open carry but requires that there is no round in the chamber. Now how this current law pertains to a revolver is beyond me.

Actually you can't have it loaded at all, no magazine in the gun or rounds in the cylinder.
 
Open Carry was intentionally banned in incorporated California in the 1960's and signed into law by Ronald Reagan.
Making people think something similar still exists is a good way to get it banned. The legislature is not swayed positively by possible self-defense applications, they intended to get rid of those in the original ban and sentiment is not that much different now.
They don't want people to be able to use a gun, only to transport it.


The current allowance of carrying an unloaded handgun is important for many reasons, including transport in all manner of places where one might actually be using it.
The definition and prohibitions set forth on loaded firearms per PC12031 describes a place as an illegal place to even possess a loaded gun if it would be a crime to discharge the firearm there (outside of self defense.)

What this means is if you are in for example the wilderness, legally there is many times when the only legal method of complying is to unload your firearm to pass through an area, cross a road, etc before loading it again.
For example it is typically illegal to discharge a firearm within 100-300 yards of a road in most of California. This means it is also illegal to possess a loaded firearm in the same place.
It is illegal to discharge a firearm within so many yards of various types of buildings, dwellings etc, making it illegal to even possess a loaded firearm.
It is illegal to discharge a firearm in the parking lot near the forest you walked from, making it a crime to have a loaded gun in that parking lot.
In some counties it is illegal to have within so many yards of a trail head, tent, etc etc (With exemption for when you at your own temporary residence.)


There is many other examples. The bottom line is even people that have no intention of strapping an unloaded handgun on still benefit from and potentially need the ability to have an unloaded uncased handgun for those places where one must unload a gun temporarily but still legally possess it.
Can you imagine trying to lug a large case around for a Thompson into the woods with you so that you had someplace to lock up the gun each time because unloading it is no long sufficient?
Hunting and fishing exemptions do not cover many scenarios either. For example taking said firearm from a vehicle in order to hike to your campsite where it would be legal to have a loaded gun will often require you carry it unloaded past places you could not have a loaded gun.
Backpackers could have even more trouble without that ability.




FIVETWOSEVEN said:
Actually you can't have it loaded at all, no magazine in the gun or rounds in the cylinder.

This is correct, current law already prohibits the majority of potential self defense uses. Which of course was the original legal intent, to prohibit people from having loaded firearms at their disposal.

Additionally current law prohibits taking an unloaded handgun within 1,000 feet of a school zone.
Anyone that draws up a map of the school zones in a city will quickly realize that travel through a city without violating the law is nearly impossible. This is not 1,000 feet from the center of the school, this is 1,000 feet from all school property.
What this means is no regular person can put a gun on their hip and proceed to have a normal day, because that gun needs to be locked up in a container or the trunk to go within 1,000 feet of school property. You could not use normal road routes, because roads are not 1,000 feet across, and you cannot even drive past schools. Many cities are impossible to cross, destinations impossible to reach, and a complicated zig-zag pattern would be required to attempt to go places without violating the law.
Even small tons with few roads generally have their elementary, middle, and high schools located on the only main roads, so rural areas are just as bad.
This means the only people that typically can actually strap a gun to themselves in public are the demonstrators that put one on at location, and then take it back off before they leave. That is the only realistic way to not criminally take a handgun into a school zone.
So in reality even unloaded open carry in developed areas is already banned as a result of the school zone restrictions, but as I explained earlier there is an endless number of reasons it is still important as a temporary option.
 
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I firmly believe all decent people should leave California. It's such a shame that the yuppies and the gangs have taken over such a beautiful place, but it's just not a safe place to live IMO.
 
Another reason I am 100% glad I did leave the state of California.

"Communist"

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Especially when used in that context........
 
"You don't need to pack your gun to buy a cheeseburger."

a near-riot broke out at the McDonald's restaurant near San Jose State University as a "mob of more than 100 people" began "screaming, yelling, and throwing punches" at each other, resulting in two people being stabbed and hospitalized.

(quoted from http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-...stomer-needed-a-handgun-to-buy-a-cheeseburger)


You just can't make this stuff up.

Does open carry with loaded firearms have a chance in Kali now?
 
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