Revolver Carry

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Ok everyone, give me your thoughts. If you favorite gun was an SP101 but you could carry your Glock 19, which would you carry? Would the 5 shots of 110JHP be sufficient for normal carry (maybe along with a speedstrip)?
What's your thoughts?
 
Given that choice, I'd go with the Ruger over the Glock. But I'd load with 180 grain Federal classics. Big bullets with a nice soft HP nose. The little high-velocity loadings are overrated in my opinion.
 
Cosmo and I agree on bullet choice, plenty of old threads about it so I won't derail this one.

If it were me, I'd feel well defended with an SP-101 but if I had the room would rather have the 19. Mainly because a Glock 19 is easier for me to shoot well. No matter what I carried, I'd carry extra ammo, helps balence out the weight. :)
 
101 since that's what you like. I've yet to hear of a legitamit situation where a private citizen required more to defend themselves. Guys who carry big guns and back-ups are merely enjoying a macho fantasy in my opinion. Besides, you can't argue with the reliability of a revolver. Here come da flames!!! :neener:

PS I carry the 342PD.
 
Hey Group

Where do I get these 180 grain Federals from?
By the way, ordered a paddle holster from Comp-Tac the other day. Can't wait to get it in. Will report on it when it arrives.
Thanks all,
Sloman
 
I would carry the 101 simply because you state that you like it more. I'm assuming by liking it more, you must shoot it better as well. Each one should adequately do the job regardless of your choice. You'll walk well-armed for sure :)

Guys who carry big guns and back-ups are merely enjoying a macho fantasy in my opinion.

Yeah you're right, my full size 1911 has 2 WHOLE rounds more than the 101. Even though I shoot that gun better than any I've ever tried, thanks for awakening me from my macho fantasy :rolleyes: And we're real lucky to have you around so you can tell everyone what they need. http://www.dictionary.com by the way.
 
My primary carry gun is an SP101. I keep it loaded with 158 grain SP though. Carry one speed loader in my pocket, and keep another in the console of my Jeep.

My other guns in my carry rotation are a Beretta 96 FS and a CZ97B. I don't feel undergunned at all with the SP! And it's a heck of a lot easier to keep concealed (I or OWB), and is much more comfortable when driving around town than the bigger autos are.
 
Sensitive are we Daniel? Since you're referencing remedial websites perhaps you can find one for yourself that assists with reading comprehension. The poster was asking whether 5 rounds was sufficient. Show me the plethora (get that dictionary now!) of cases involving a private citizen where it hasn't been. I then state -ah heck-go back to school!
 
Frankly spoken, for the defensive scenarios I am likely to face I'd be happy carrying either one...

...however, the 15-round magazine capacity of the Glock just gives me a psychological advantage knowning that I'd have more ammo at my disposal allowing me to stay longer in the fight, especially when packing one or two spare magazines as well (31 rds. or 46 rds. total). In order to have the same amount of ammo for the Ruger you are required to pack at 5 or 8 speedloaders in addition to the contains of the 5-shot cylinder of the revolver (imagine, that would look funny on the belt and would otherwise be extremely bothersome in the coat/jacket/trouser pockets!). The lightweight and relatively flat contour of the Glock seems to be easier to pack than the Ruger, but that's a personal thing.

Armed with you Ruger, if you'll ever find yourself being forced to shoot in anger, I bet that the thought will cross your mind that if you had packed that ugly Austrian pistol instead of your beautiful little "Fivegun", you might have had an advantage in armament now...
 
I guess my first response was a bit flippant -- I will be more thoughful now. :cool:

The decision as to whether you need 5-10 rounds or 18-52 rounds is one you need to make before you decide what to carry. I have two guns that I carry, but never have more than 10-13 rounds total on my person (the gun's capacity plus one reload) -- although I will have more readily available at home, in my office, and in my vehicle.

I just don't think I need to carry a box of ammo, and I am happy with a revolver as a concealed carry gun. I like them, shoot them well, find them to be very safe, my wife is comfortable with using one if need be, and I know it will work when I pull the trigger.

TK73 -- not to nitpick, but I hope I never shoot my gun in "anger," only in fear for my life. ;)
 
...however, the 15-round magazine capacity of the Glock just gives me a psychological advantage knowning that I'd have more ammo at my disposal allowing me to stay longer in the fight, especially when packing one or two spare magazines as well (31 rds. or 46 rds. total).

Plan on missing a lot? I'd rather spend my time gaining proficiency with my first five shots and reloading from a flat speed strip than on planning how to rig up two spare double stack mags and keep them as well concealed as the handgun.

There is something to be said for fire discipline as opposed to a personal free fire zone. :rolleyes:
 
101 since that's what you like. I've yet to hear of a legitamit situation where a private citizen required more to defend themselves. Guys who carry big guns and back-ups are merely enjoying a macho fantasy in my opinion. Besides, you can't argue with the reliability of a revolver. Here come da flames!!!

A man shouldn't be flamed for stating the truth!!

I carry a SW 65 daily and feel more than adequately armed for any situation I can imagine in my wildest dreams. I carry a couple of speed strips in the truck with me and I figure if I ever need more than 18, I'm someplace I shouldn't be.
 
Sensitive are we Daniel?

Well when you paint everyone who carries a gun bigger than a J-Frame as a mall ninja you should expect people to fire back. You even knew the flames were coming after your post so it was obvious you knew the insulting nature of it.

Since you're referencing remedial websites perhaps you can find one for yourself that assists with reading comprehension. The poster was asking whether 5 rounds was sufficient. Show me the plethora (get that dictionary now!) of cases involving a private citizen where it hasn't been.

While we all appreciate your speculative foresight, I don't feel that I can tell anyone what they need in a gun fight. As in business, past performance doesn't indicate future results. If you want to bring up statistics as far as shoot outs go, I don't even need my gun for defense on a statistical level. That said, it all comes down to personal comfort as to what you feel is sufficient. In addition, I don't accuse people of having macho fantasies because of their choices in the matter. Don't forget, to many people you meet in the world, they think you are having a macho fantasy by carrying a gun in the first place.

I then state -ah heck-go back to school!

I'm done with school for a few years thanks. I already have a legitamit...sorry I mean legitimate, degree from Krannert.
 
I have a Glock 17 and an SP101..I carry the SP...like Kamicosmos,One speedloader in the pocket another in the car...my sp is 100% reliable and VERY accurate,I got a trigger job done a while back,so it's also a fast shooter.Plus you can actually shoot 357's out of this little guy and not need carpal tunnel surgery.....I carry 38+p+ 110 gr.....been trying to find some of those 135gr +p's around here though.....
sometimes I think maybe I need more rounds(not that I'e NEEDED any so far)But the 17 just doesn't work for me to carry....it's too boxy or something(maybe I'm not boxy enough :) )....
 
I say carry the gun that you have confidence in and can shoot with a degree of competence. I've seen big men who can carry an N - frame Smith with ease and do so. I've seen other folks carry a Kle-Tec 32. Whatever you carry make sure you know what you're doing. Who cares about size? No jokes please. :rolleyes:

Oh by the way my CCW is either a Colt Detective Special or a Smith M49. Once in awhile I'll carry my Sig 245, but I find my revolvers to be easier and more concealable. I don't feel undergunned.
 
Dear Boats:

I agree with you wholeheartly: Accuracy is decidedly more important than firepower.

I was not my intention to give the impression that "spray and pray" is what I think to be a viable tactic for self-defense. Upon re-reading my own post, I admit it's easy to come to this (false) impression.

However, I regard virtually all handguns as rather underpowered in comparsion to what shotguns and rifles can provide. Unfortunately, we cannot routinely walk around carrying rifles and shotguns. I guess, most guys here will agree that there's no such thing as a "magic" bullet or 100 % sure one shot stops, so we really don't know how many rounds it takes to drop an attacker who intends to cause bodily harm and death. If we'd be forewarned that we are forced to use our gun to defend ourselves on a certain day, we wouldn't go there, right? Sometimes there is more than just one single attacker the defender has to deal with. There's no way we get to know beforehand what terrible circumstances will awaits us, so I personally prefer to plan for the worst case scenario. If you are confident using your revolver then that's fine with me. I train at least on a weekly basis using both with revolvers and semi-autos (I like both!) alternatively. I also test my skills in competition every once in a while. From what I've learned I am more accurate and fasterwith a semi-auto pistol (be it a 1911 or a hi-cap 9 mm), especially under stress. I wish the same would hold true with the revolver, but unfortunately that's not the case.

Shooting a revolver well in double action mode is more difficult than using a Safe Action or SA auto under stress. I have no statistics to prove, but I bet survival and hitting ability of cops has improved greatly since adoption of semi-auto duty pistols (and more realistic training, of course).

Under stress everyone loses some of his/her fine motor skills. No question, inserting a hi-cap magazine into the magazine well is much easier than aligning five or six cartridges of a charged speed loader with the chambers of a revolver's cylinder or even reloading five or six single cartridges. A fully loaded Glock 19 holds three times more ammo than the fine Ruger revolver to begin with, so it's unlikely that the pistol shooter even has to reload.

I stand by my intial post, I'd strongly favour the Glock, as it's easier to shoot well under stress, allows for faster recoil recovery, holds more ammo, has better sights and, besides, it is a very tough handgun that will continue to work under the worst conditions imaginable. Spare magazines are easier to pack, too.

No argument, just my personal opinion on what I've learned over the years. :)

All the best.

TK
 
Checkman-

I say carry the gun that you have confidence in and can shoot with a degree of competence. I've seen big men who can carry an N - frame Smith with ease and do so. I've seen other folks carry a Kle-Tec 32. Whatever you carry make sure you know what you're doing. Who cares about size?

Now that is a reasonable answer. Pick your gear and train like mad with it. If during the course of training you find your gear is inadequate (which many people do), adapt and keep training.
 
Hey, you'll get no argument from me. :) I sometimes pack my XD9 and one spare mag when I feel that more rounds might be more important than more power.

An example would be going out and quarrying some rock out in the nearby national forest. There has been a lot of trouble with meth cooking out on the old logging roads. That is one particular trip that I go on with all of the ammo I can readily carry because I never know what or who I might run into and that XD is light to carry while pry barring decorative boulders for my water feature.
 
Go with the revolver. The revolving cylinder, being based on the wheel, has been tested and tried for a long time.

"What goes around, comes around", "cycle of life", etc etc

The revolver is just good karma :neener: :neener: :neener: :D :D :D

Good luck.

-Jim
 
An OLD S&W Model 60 in .38 has replaced my colt pony pocketlite in .380 in my pocket.

Much less bulgy, looks less like a gun, more comfortable.


-James
 
A carry gun for SD should not be judged in the same manner as LEO or military weapons. I believe, with others, that confidence in use should be the foremost criteria.
 
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