RFB Reliability Check with Minimum Maintenance

[Caseless]

Has any Kel-Tec RFB owner fired a few thousand rounds without cleaning this carbine (detail-stripping)?

I am trying to determine if the RFB is closer to a no maintenance required gun like an AK or a low maintenance rifle like the FAL. (For range use, not combat of course)

 

[Cal-gun Fan]

I don't think anybody has been able to fire a few thousand rounds out of an RFB, with or without cleaning

 

[Caseless]

No rush. I don't think I can order the 24" barrel Sporter for another two years.

 

[Cal-gun Fan]

My friend David had one of these and I got to shoot a few rounds. Had problems feeding from the get go, and he sent it back after it had more problems. He shot about 150 rounds through it. He didn't think much of its accuracy either.

My advice: Get something else. Sure, it sounds cool and it looks cool, but there really are much better alternatives out there.

 

[TIMC]

I don't see the point of running guns that filthy, all it can do is damage. Even my AK would never be left dirty past a couple hundred rounds. Of course I won't run my cars past a few K-miles without oil changes either. There is no such thing as a maintenance free machine of any kind! Lack of maintenance only means it just won't last as long as something well maintained.

 

[Cal-gun Fan]

Exactly. Tons of people talk about how useful some guns are because they are low maintenance...but thats not exactly true. In a battlefield situation, sometimes you aren't able to clean the rifle for an extended period of time. But not cleaning a range gun is just...lazy, really.

 

[scandium_wheelgunner]

Caseless: "I am trying to determine if the RFB is closer to a no maintenance required gun like an AK or a low maintenance rifle like the FAL."

scandium_wheelgunner: You are assuming as a premise something that needs to be proven. If you think the AK is lower maintenance than the FAL, make a case for it, don't just assume it.
I have both and I don't agree. Both barrels get dirty at the same rate. The AK gas system allows some exhaust gas to find its way into the receiver, and the FAL system doesn't. After the AK gas piston clears the actual gas block, the piston diameter is less than the gas tube, so the gas tube then provides a path for the exhaust gases back into the receiver, mush like the the notorious AR stoner system. After firing your AK stick your finger in the gas piston hole in the sight block from the receiver end, it will come out black. Both gas-piston faces get black at the same rate and both will work fine when black.
If you mean maintenance to remove dirt that comes in from the outside, the AK action is less-well sealed, whenever the safety is off, the action is wide open to the elements. The FAL action is sealed at all times.

 

[bigmike45]

Cal-Gun,

It's a shame that David had such problems. Last check I have run 600 rounds, mostly reloads, through mine. I have had 3 FTF all from reloads. Other than that the gun is flawless. Accuracy....I am amazed that it shoots as good as it does with the length of barrel it came with. It is incredible easy to hold on target, round after round. Tack driver...NO but it is not supposed to be one either. I have let 5 different people shoot mine, one being a woman. All but one want one. The one that does not has a bullpuped SKS that he loves. Mine even shoots the Winchester White Box that KelTec disuades you to use.

bigmike45.