Rich Hollis, London?

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So, yesterday I'm visiting a buddy of mine. He recently lost his mother, and in the process of sorting through things... finds an old relic. We took some digital pix of it, but I'm waiting on him to email 'em to me.

From what I was able to determine after giving a once over eyeballing, I'm suspecting it's an actual mid 19th century offering. Percussion, single shot pistol, probably .50 cal. Ramrod holder is present, but no ramrod. It's "in the white", but is either a very ornately patterned barrel, or may be Damascus steel? The furniture is rather ornate as well, the trigger guard needs to be silver soldered (I suspect), it appears to be made of silver, but lacks the tell tale "tarnish" so I'm suspecting another metal. The stock is finely checkered and has a silver shield inlaid into the back strap of the stock. It has a nice silver metal piece of furniture on the left side of the stock which is engraved with decorations as well as " Rich Hollis ". The top of the barrel has "LONDON" tooled into it and has two contrasting (perpendicular) bands across it where the barrel meets the lockwork. The trigger will not catch the sear as you cock it, but you can feel it trying to engage in three stages of cocking. The barrel wedge has a slot and when we were able to release the barrel from the stock, the wedge remains secured to the stock (nice feature). I keep thinking "Damascus", because the ornate pattern on the barrel continues all the way around the barrel, even where it will not be seen while mounted to the stock. There was a build up of some corrosion on the underside of the barrel. A little oil on a soft sock and some rubbing to clean "gunk" revealed a three digit serial number, the initials "RH", and two more marks (proof marks) that couldn't really be revealed in detail with the light cleaning we did on the gunk. Even the hammer on this is ornately done as a "fish". The lockwork screws are ornate as well... and appear to've been indexed (although a couple of the screws which've been turned over the years' of use/ownership weren't "indexed" when re-secured).

Some google searching netted us a similar looking pistol that was valued at between $800-$1200, which also had the ramrod missing, and the forward hoop to secure the ramrod was broken off (this one's intact). It was a .45 cal pistol. The description of this one indicated those same contrasting (perpendicular) bands on the barrel were gold and platinum. I'm wondering if "platinum" is the furniture metal on this one too? From what I was able to see with the limited lighting... the bore isn't in too bad of shape, not sure if it's smooth or rifled. I doesn't appear to be "loaded" though. LOL My initial instinct is to pull the lockwork out of it, clean/oil it, inspect it for what would need "repair"... pull the nipple, give it a thorough cleaning/oiling, "schmooie" up the nipple threads and oil the stock... and shoot it !!! But, if it is Damascus steel, and actually IS as old as I suspect it is... it'd need a good eyeballing by someone more qualified than me to make that call.

It looks very similar to this one...

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Ratdog68 said:
I'm wondering if "platinum" is the furniture metal on this one too?

Cupronickel seems to have gained much earlier & widespread use and application during the 1800's. While platinum was used, access to it was much more limited. If you've ever seen the small U.S. 3 cent piece circa 1865 that's mentioned below, it looks just like silver.

The French physicist P.F. Chabaneau first obtained malleable platinum in 1789 in order to produce a chalice presented to Pius VI. It seems that the British chemist W. H. Wollaston was the first person to obtain a sample of pure platinum in the early 1800s. The techniques used by Wollaston in the separation of PGMs are considered to be the basis for modern platinum metallurgy.

The production of platinum requires very complex processing techniques that were not available until the end of the 19th century. Moreover, the high melting points of platinum made it very difficult to work with it. It was only with the development of new refining techniques that platinum was more widely used for new industrial applications. On the other hand, the use of platinum in fine jewelry rose quickly in the beginning of the 20th century. Platinum was already highly appreciated for its beauty and durability.

http://www.unctad.org/infocomm/anglais/platinum/characteristics.htm


In modern German, Kupfernickel or Kupfer-Nickel designates the alloy cupronickel.

In the United States, the term "nickel" or "nick" was originally applied to the copper-nickel Indian cent coin introduced in 1859. Later, the name designated the three-cent coin introduced in 1865, and the following year the five-cent shield nickel appropriated the designation, which has remained ever since. Coins of pure nickel were first used in 1881 in Switzerland.[17][21]

After its discovery the only source for nickel was the rare Kupfernickel, but from 1824 on the nickel was obtained as byproduct of cobalt blue production. The first large scale producer of nickel was Norway, which exploited nickel rich pyrrhotite from 1848 on.

See "history" of nickel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel
 
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Just googling "rich hollis pistol" brings up a number of hits.

http://www.henrykrank.com/pp105.html

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Thanks, yer arcticness. It's definately a beauty, especially for such an ol' girl.

I saw that listing Kodiak... after seeing that pair's description, I'm more and more convinced this one's of Damascus steel too.
 
My buddy finally emailed the pix to me of his antique .50cal pistola. Rich Hollis of London, I'm certain this is Damscus steel with gold/platinum decorative bands across the barrel, near the lockworks. She's a beaut !!

Top, assembled
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Side Plate Decor
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Rich Hollis Proof markings and serial number
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Overall Size
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Left Profile
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Furniture
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Damascus Steel barrel, "London" identifier, gold/platinum bands
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LOL The canvas bag in the pix? It was in the bag and stuffed into a compartment of a cabinet... he stumbled across it on accident.
 
Thanks... keep the input comin' fellers. Love learnin' 'bout these ol' girls. I'll tell yaz... I'm just itchin' to get after this thing with some soap/water and a stiff (plastic) bristled brush and get it "clean"... soak the nipple with some penetrating oil... give the inside of the barrel a good soap/water cleaning... clean up the nipple area... some anti-seize to the threads and a light rub with some gun oil to the metal work. I just hate seein' her wanting for a little TLC... but, there's that "patina" fine line thing too. :D
 
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