Riflemaker donates to Obama?

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Just got off the phone "Joe" at Cooper Firearms. Explained that while I hadn't heard anything bad about their weapons in terms of quality or accuracy that I would never purchase one of their firearms and would never patronize any gunshop that sold them.

The response I got was " Yeah, well I'll pass it on".

I don't think they give a damn.
 
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I won't be buying a Cooper rifle. It's his right to vote for whomever he wants. It's my right to support gun makers who aren't selling out our rights.
 
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I've been wanting a Cooper rifle for quite some time. Been saving my nickels and dimes, too.

Guess I'll have my Model 70 Colt 1911 customized instead. Probably a better value considering a Cooper might not be worth squat after this...

As for his employees, I have always accepted a job with the knowledge that I "was looking for a job before I found this one". I hope they share the philosophy.

Poper
 
I don't believe anyone is saying that Mr Cooper doesn't have a right to endorse whichever candidate he cares to. What people are objecting to is the fact that he is seemingly willing to sacrifice gun rights as a whole knowing that the type that he sells are "probably" not as susceptible to any type of ban. Sure he has the right to endorse who he would like to, but that doesn't negate anyone else's right to voice displeasure about it. A president of course can't officially create legislation on his own, but if a president is less likely to veto something and has a congress that is of his own party, it can be a dangerous situation for rights of any kind indeed.
 
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Cooper must be nearing retirement or has all the money he needs. I believe he has made a fatal mistake in the gun-making business. Unless, of course, the Obama people have told him he will get an army contract once the election is over. (Ya' think?????):confused:
 
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Mavbe Mr. Cooper will get on THeHighRoad and explain to the large percentage of firearms owners that are present here, how he justifies supporting obama or any anti 2nd Amendment politician. Maybe we are wrong about him.
 
My guess is he makes less than 250,000 and dose not employee any one.
He employs at least one other person, I talked to him today and he said he'd pass my message on. Needless to say I didn't wish the company nor owner well while in the gun buiding business and NRA membership.
Wasn't it a Dan Cooper that jumped out of an airplane with several million dollars that was never recovered?
 
Going Out of Business = Lower Profits..

We all have the right to vote as we wish..

Thank God we are in America!
 
Well, they lost my buisness. I'll buy an Anschutz if I ever need a high-quality bolt gun. However, what people have said about him not losing buisness is true. He makes bolt guns, and they are chambered for rimfire cartridges.(Unlike deer rifles, Obama hasn't supported a ban on them, except for maybe the .17 HMR)
Maybe he is concerned about the country as a whole, rather than just putting his business first. Yeah, what a scumbag!
If he doesn't think you deserve personal protection, and is more concerned with mugger's safety, do you really think he's going to do what's best for this country? :scrutiny:
 
Reality check: per AFMER2006, Cooper made 2,803 rifles in 2006; Dakota made 530. AFAICT, neither firm makes the type of product likely to be first thrown off the sled. I mention Dakota only as they appear to appeal to a similar segment of the market.

Likely, neither firm really cares what 500,000 people comparison shopping AR15 lowers thinks. None of the AR15 crowd was about to line Cooper's pockets with anything other than lint.

But if Cooper thought half of his 2800 was going to wind up in Dakota's backlog, I'd bet he'd care. One wonders how that might happen...

Based on his product line-up, he doesn't appear to be losing any business to the Remington R-25. He probably just likes his candidate. Perhaps mute testimony to the effectiveness of the AHSA? Or maybe he attends a lot of gun shows and sees danger no matter which way he looks.

Whatever, I'll spend my money with Dakota should the opportunity arise. I wouldn't feel right telling Cooper I'm now not going to buy something I'd never have considered anyway. I was already boycotting him for totally unrelated issues.

The mystery is why he'd announce rather than remain silent.

FWIW, at more than 10 rifles per working day, more than one employee seems plausible.
 
Bye Bye...

For the rest of my days (however many they may be) I, also, would never (EVER) consider purchasing a "Cooper" bolt action rifle (or ANY of their PRODUCTS) after this (regardles of who wins the race).

Period.
 
Hammel said, "I would rather pay a little higher tax on a higher profit than a lower tax rate on lower profits."
Except that companies dont pay taxes... they are a cost of doing business that is passed along to the customer.
 
Except that companies dont pay taxes... they are a cost of doing business that is passed along to the customer.


I can tell that you don't own a biz. yes some costs can be passed on to the consumer, but not all. Funny thing about custmers, they like low prices and hate price increases.
 
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Y'all have me working overtime to keep this open.

Please feel free to notice the absence of many posts seeking to divert this thread into politics.

 
He makes bolt guns, and they are chambered for rimfire cartridges.
Cooper makes his guns in CF also, a friend of mine had a Cooper 25-06.

Now, I see my friend ArfinGreebly has spent a lot of time cleaning this thread up. I apologize to him for leaving it open and causing him so much work.

One more comment about Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians or any other political nonsense, and I'm closing this thread.

Or if I miss it, I'm sure Arfin or Justin will save me the trouble.

EDIT: cross-posted with AG.
 
Mr Cooper has every right to vote and support a candidate of his choice.....but he failed to learn from the Dixie Chicks example that you keep personnel political views to yourself and separate from the business.

....sad....been saving for a new Cooper, guess I'll look for something different.
 
My brief email to Cooper:

Please forward this to the president of your company who has seen fit to donate money to a liberal gun-banner like Barack Obama.

I was recently approached by a friend seeking a recommendation regarding companies that make custom rifles. Since you've donated money to the Obama-Biden ticket, I'll steer my friend toward another maker and NOT Cooper.

I hope you go out of business.

Sincerely,

XXXXX XXXXX
Brookhaven, MS
 
If that was the case then Ruger and S&W would be gone as well.

Ruger and S&W were both severely hurt by their actions, and they are large corporations.

Cooper is a couple of guys in a gun shop.

20% sales impact to Smith was painful, 20% drop in sales to Cooper would probably close the doors.
 
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