Road trip to CMP North 6-29-04

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Spot77 and I departed from the Baltimore metro area this morning at 0200 hours and started our trek to Port Clinton, OH to visit the CMP North store at Camp Perry.

We traded off shifts driving the Passat over the next 7.5 hours as we travelled through some of the most beautiful land that God chose to grace the US with (actually we only saw this after the sun was up:p ). But let me just say that I'm envious of those that live along the I-80 corridor in Ohio as it was just the most serene, pastoral landscape I've seen in a long time.

At 0930 we arrived at Port Clinton and immediately headed for the rest stop to take care of the most urgent business, wondering how much further it was to Camp Perry. Lo, and behold....the gate was only about 100 yeards down the road....but I was focused on other matters before I noticed it.

Guards gave us a cursory look over....helps to have military ID and a DOD sticker on the car, I guess.

Entered the CMP store and immediately started perusing the SA Service Grade rifles there.

After looking for a few minutes and finding a couple of likely candidates, I finally decided to do a very un-guy-like thing and ask for some help from the counter person. A very kind gentleman (sorry, didn't get his name) spent the next 30 minutes going over the redeming qualities of many of the available rifles and doing throat erosion and muzzle wear measurements for those that hadn't been done yet.

He then turned me loose to make a decision from amongst the most desirable candidates.

Then, a magical thing happened. I had just about decided on a 1942 model, re-barrelled 1956, TE 1, MW 1 with average quality stock. However, a very nice older gentleman had just selected two other guns to purchase. This means that more guns come from the back stores to refill the retail shop racks.

The first store employee then brought a rifle to me that he said that I ought to consider.

That's when I first saw it.

Serial number in the 3.3 millions....a lot younger than I first wanted but continue reading and you'll see why I ultimately picked it.

Apparently this puts the manufacture in around 1956. Re-barrelled with a SA barrel in 1966, looks like it has an IH bolt. The front and rear handguards look to be of same vintage, whether it original or not who knows?

The stock is flawless.....I mean pristine, virginal....well you get the idea.

Counter worker felt it was a replacement of recent manufacture while the armorer from the back felt that it had been sanded and refinished. For sure it was of a less dense cut of walnut as it is noticeably lighter than the other vintage stocks.

Now comes the kicker.....muzzle wear? 0....as in nada, nothing, zilch. Armorer felt that it had never been fired since being re-barrelled in 1966.

The conundrum is that now I feel like I have to get another one in rack grade because this one is too nice to shoot:D

Ended up coming away with a can of surplus ammo and one of those spiffy CMP soft cases as well as the rifle. Spot77 came away with an ammo can and a load of .30 caliber brass (the cans with the brass were in better shape).

Returned back to Baltimore beltway area at 1815 hours tired but exhilarated at the same time. 15 hours driving time with 16 hours or so elapsed time.......

Off to Fulton Armory later this week for a once over/check up and then to Hap Baker range hopefully by the end of the week.

If you can make the trip to CMP do it.....I would never have gotten this quality rifle had I taken my luck with the mail order. I'll do the rack grade that way though....

Spot77 will be posting some pictures as soon as he wakes up.....:neener:
 
El Tejon,

We may not have taken the prize for the longest distance driven to CMP. There was apickup truck in the lot with Colorado tags on it and the staff was talking about a guy driving in from the west coast later that day.:cool:

Of course, we may be the only ones in the history of the store to do a 16 hour round trip in one day!
 
I am seriously considering driving there in November.
Of course I am not driving clear across the country just for that reason alone, but it will factor into the trip.
I have been there before, but at the time, I lived in Ohio.
 
Swampy,

Thanks for the info on the date. The gentleman must have mispoke when he said "1954".....the fact that it is circa 1944 makes it even more special!
 
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to those who have been to the store...my wife and i have been seriously thinking bout making the trip..what did you do about the paperwork? fill it out and take it with you? fill it out there? just want to know so we can make an informed decision...
 
outdoorman63,

I took with me: passport, driver's license, NRA Basic Pistol Certificate, the marksmanship form from the CMP website. You'll also need your club membership info. If you are member of GCA, you'll be in their computer already.

Once you make you selection of your rifle, the counter person will fill out paperwork with you. It will then be notarized there, they will call in NICS.

Once the lady at the counter completes the sale she will take your money, send you back to the gun cage to get your rifle and then give you your certificate of authenticity.

No muss....no fuss:cool:
 
Okay, I'm semi caught up on sleep......pictures to follow in a few minutes.


Neat place. They had Greek issued, rack grade Garands for $295!
 
Let's see if this works.....

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Too bad that we didn't have time for a more detailed photographic study of the gun. This pictures doesn't really show the differences in the stock and handguards.

Truth is though, there are very few blemishes on the handguards either.........
 
You made making a road trip to pick up a Garand sound like a plan.
That was until I checked the map; 2350 mile round trip.:eek: Maybe I'll just take my chances and get on through the mail. :(
 
Sisco,

Now that would be a SERIOUS road trip......by the time you factored in the fuel costs, you'd have negated any savings by buying from CMP. We were only into the trip for around $40.00 in gas.....subtract $20.95 shipping costs and you end up with only an extra $20.00.

My wife was kind enough to pack the cooler for us so that we didn't have to pay for food on the road. We only made two stops each direction for calls of nature and it made for not too brutal a trip.
 
By the time I figure in gas, meals & motels I'd have a $700 - $800 rifle :what:
Guess what I could do is forget the road trip and use the money I'd save to buy a 03A3 to go with the Garand! :D
 
Just use the trip to justify going to Cedar Point Amusement park, which is very near Port Clinton, or if that's not your speed by staying at a B&B out on Put in Bay, a nice little island on Lake Erie.

You might even talk your wife or girlfriend into enjoying the trip too! :D
 
Swingset,

After making that trip and seeing the beauty of the country of that way, I'm seriously thinking about a vacation up that way some time. Of course that would be a thinly veiled excuse to re-visit the CMP store :D
 
That area has some wonderful things to see and do.
When I was a kid, I vacationed there a couple times with my friend's family on Kelly's Island. The fishing was fantastic in Lake Erie.
Cedar Point is terrific.

I am difinitely going to make the trip from Nevada.
 
Norton,
Right on man! I just got my third Garand from the CMP this week. A rack grade Greek HRA. Thing is nicer than my Service grades! The only things NOT HRA on it are the Op Rod (Uncut springfield) and the rear sight elevation spindle (a Beretta BM59 part!). Barrel is original to rifle (1954). Tag was marked "bore" but it was just dirty. I don't have a MW/TE guage, but I did the "bullet test" on the muzzle and was rewarded with a nice 3/16".

I went to the Hap Baker range for the first time this season. I used to be there twice a week. Everytime I go, the Garands get some lusty looks. I almost always get offers to buy it. Let me know when you go, I'll see if I can make it too.

Rich
 
The fishing was fantastic in Lake Erie.
Hehe yeah just don't eat the fish you catch too often.

From the sound of things I'm gonna have to speed up getting my qualifications for CMP in order and plan a road trip! Just don't tell my wife! or at least tell her there's a .45 in it for her :D
 
Trumpet,

I'll probably go ahead and order a rack grade Greek as it turns out. With the unfired barrel on this Springfield, I feel like I should not shoot it too much.....I will shoot it SOME though:D

The current one will be like my good china and the Greek can be my everyday dishes:p

If I get my junk together today, I may head to Hap Baker and give the SKS a workout....have to burn off some of that 1500 rounds of Wolf......wife was starting to wonder why I "need" that much ammo. I give her the line about black helicopters and blue helmeted JBTs and she rolls her eyes and walks away:evil:



Anapex,

My wife was encouraging of our road trip, but there was that tacet understanding that by the end of the summer, we would be looking at a new Springfield or Kimber for her....darn:cool:
 
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