Rock Island Armory .45

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Are they an inferior product?

I have looked at a couple of Armscor products before, and always been tempted, they are seemingly well put together but I have been told they are rough in finish.

Any feedback from owners, or those who carry these products would be greatly appreciated.
 
WaMason

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I have Owned a Rock island Made 1911A1 Gov Model and I am happy with it, I have about 5K in it and it's accurate at 25 yards, I have replaced the grips and Fiting pin 9Titanium) but neither was needed just desired, these are good shooters for the $ and here is a ink to ways to improve it as well as most other base Line 45's:

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/ria_reliability.htm

Here s the Article, I had to do none of this, but some may want to do them if their gun has issues:Making the Rock Island Armory
.45 1911 Pistol Reliable
By Jason
I have good news for all those asking about the Rock Island 45's. Here are my findings. My first firing session of 100 rounds was very frustrating. My ammo was Winchester WinClean ammo. The magazine is cheap and she needs a polish job.

After that firing session here's what I did: One needs to do Syd's Fluff & Buff. I polished everything that had metal to metal contact. But that's just me. I disassembled the entire gun – hammer, sear, pins, springs – you name it – down to the bare frame. I gave everything a very through cleaning. I also added a Chip McCormick Full Length guide rod. I had to made a slight modification with Dremel to make it fit, a five minute job. I replaced the stock recoil spring with a Wolff 18.5# spring. With the FLGR in, the entire slide action is much more smooth when manual cycling the slide. I also ordered 1 standard 8-round Chip McCormick magazine and 1 8-round Power Mag, just to see if there would be any difference in feed-ability or function (both worked fine).

I also made a slight adjustment on the stock extractor. The rest of the Rock Island was left bone stock. I have always used Mobil One synthetic oil in my guns for lube. They get real dirty but they always work!

I purchased the same ammo, Winchester WinClean ammo along with CCI Blazer. I fired a total of 200 rounds and she never missed a beat – no, jams, no stove pipes. There were just three errors, of which two were me an the other was caused by a bit of debris lodged in the extractor. I cleaned the extractor with a dry brush and there were no further problems.

I found that after adding the FLGR and the 18.5# recoil spring that the recoil was a lot less and I'm not a gun guru but the shots were right on the money! It shoots to point of aim and prints a nice "tight" group as they say.
My first impression was the pistol was OK. But when I fired it, it was not smooth like my other .45 which is a Para. After the polish work, a few tweaks and some good mags, this Rock Island is a keeper. It was a joy to shoot. But remember that this is a Clone of a Colt 1911. So, some of these so called “drop-in” parts might need a tweaking to make them fit. I'm not a gunsmith but I was able to make the necessary corrections with a Dremel. No problems. A sweet gun for an exceptional value. Or it would make it a nice build up gun.

Whatever you do with it, I don't think you can go wrong.
 
Check the m1911 forums. they consistently have rave reviews there and quite favorable reviews here.

They are priced as an entry-level 1911 but provide greater service and accuracy than they appear. Their warranty work is on-par with Springfield or Smith & Wesson. The finish of the gun, though not "beautiful," is functional. ("Spartan" would be my colorful adjective, but that's the name of a competing 1911 ad I don't want to confuse the issue.) It's basic GI model is a fine gun, but for just a few dollars more you can get the Tactical model with very nice upgrades - Novac style sights, beavertail grip safety, and combat hammer.

I had the Tactical but had to sell it when offered more cash then I paid for it. I currently have the Compact model (aka "officer") as a carry gun. I literally trust it with my life. It's had zero mods or alterations; it's bone stock. All I have done to it is clean it up, lube it, and shoot a couple hundred rounds of factory and reloaded ammo. It feeds JHPs, ball, cast lead, and even lead SWCs without a hitch. It's my favorie range gun, too! I have no qualms recommending it wholehartedly as either a range or carry gun.

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You Get What You Pay For.........................

And the Rock Island Would be a Very Good Choice .....

Over 4.5K thru mine and Not any Issue that was Not able to be Corrected with another Ammo Choice .....
 
About 15,000 rounds through my oldest RIA. Didn't take long to have spend more on the ammo run through it than I did on the gun even back when Wolf was $120/1000.

Recommended.

--wally.
 
I do not think they are inferior. They are not as pretty as some of the others but I am not concerned about that. About 2000 through mine in the last year and it operates just fine. For the $379 I paid for it new, it was a smokin' deal. I would buy another in a heartbeat. Recommended as well.
 
I had one, and it shot very well, never had any jams. Yeah the finish isn't going to be as nice as some $2000 safe queen, but who cares? It's low priced and it shoots great, which is beautiful in itself. From 3 feet away they look just fine to me

I traded mine plus some cash for a Para Warthog...boy was that a mistake. I wish I could go back in time on that deal! Sold that Warthog after only a couple range trips. Oh well, I'll buy another RIA once I get some other guns done first
 
Just recently picked this one up i haven't fired it yet:( ,having a little trouble finding range ammo. I did my research before buying one and found no real complaints. They seem well built in form and function and should prove to be a good value.
 

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I have an RIA 1911. I bought it to shoot it. It shoots everytime and accurately. It doesn't matter to me if I can see tool marks on the inside of any gun, it just has to shoot. The exterior of the RIA is "plain Jane" and that is fine, I don't need bling in my hand. My friend with a Para was jealous of the performance of my gun. I think I got a better bargain than the high priced spread.
 
The RIA is a great budget 1911. So long as you know that, and accept what a "budget" pistol buys you, you will be happy with it.

On top of that, the customer service is top shelf, which is a significant benefit at this price point.

Here's a linky to a photo comparison between a Springfield GI (the RIA's main competitor at the bottom end of the 1911 spectrum) and a RIA fullsize. You can make your own conclusions based on the data presented.

http://thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=414414
 
Quiet:

Would never consider buying any Colt other than Pre 80...............all my Series 70's are terriffic.
Buy what you want or can afford......"You Get What You Pay For"....:neener:
 
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Quiet:

Would never consider buying any Colt other than Pre 80...............all my Series 70's are terriffic.
Buy what you want or can afford......"You Get What You Pay For".... :neener:
I was raised on the Colt 1911s (Government and Commanders).
I now own more Glocks than Colts, because the Glocks are more reliable than the Colt 1911s. :neener:
 
I have both a full size tactical model and a compact model and am very happy with both. They aren't fancy but do go bang every time and are accurate.
 
Conclusions?
Good to great value
Basic ones are not pretty, some of the others are, or can be made pretty
Perfectly serviceable, good shooters
Just as accurate as other more expesive ones
No reports of malfunctions, just ammo preferences
The 'snobs' will always look down their nose at them.
 
Rock Island Armory .45

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Are they an inferior product?

No, they're not. Fine weapons, I have three.

You Get What You Pay For.........................

I hate ignorant a$$holes like this.....
 
I got a 'used' GI the week before Christmas for $100 less than the shop was selling new ones. The trigger was exceptionally stiff (about 10#) but I figured I could fix it so I gave it a home.
After disassembly the gun had zero wear marks, the frame to slide area was pristine. The sear wasn't sitting square on the hammer hooks so I squared and polished the face and the trigger is now at 5# and smooth as silk.

Very accurate, nice fit and finish, and for right at $300 I couldn't be happier.
 
I worked on one for a buddy of mine; he bought a nickel plated M1911A1. First thing I was impressed with was the quality of the nickel plate; very even application with no build-up or thin spots anywhere. Next positive thing was the overall fit, with a very solid barrel to slide lock-up and tight (but not overly so) slide to frame fit. Internals were nicely finished and fitted properly inside the frame. The gun itself has performed flawlessly with both factory and handloaded ammunition with decent enough accuracy overall. I would rate this gun as very good buy for the money.
 
Good choice on the Rock Island 1911.

The Armscor revolver seems to be rather rough. Do a search here and reports are about 50-50 favorable/unfavorable. Yeah, it's only $190, but you can get a Smith model 10 for that, or just a shade more, and have a better gun, IMHO.

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i've never heard a bad thing about the RIAs, even 1911 buffs love it. a local shop sells the mil-spec for less than $400, and the Tactical model for a little more. the guy that runs the shop has been carrying the Officer's size model around for awhile; he used to carry a Colt.
 
RIA compact

gets carried quite often. has over 1000rds thru it, no problems.



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