Rogue Safe Company

[wds12679]

I'm looking for a good heavy duty gun safe. I saw Rogue Safe Company at the sportsman's show a couple weeks ago. I was impressed with there safes. I'm really close to pulling the trigger on there "rouge series". They have a 1/2" plated door, 7 gage plate steel outerbody and a 7 gage steel innerlining with ceramic fire blanket inbetween. There is not alot of info out there about there safes. Does anyone have one? How do they like it? Any locksmiths on here please que in? I am looking for any independent info. I did have a long conversation with the owner he seemed like a honest guy. I was looking at the 36x27x72 it weghts in at 1475 lb's, according to the owner you can also trade in your Rouge safe if you want to upgrade for the price you bought it for. Seems like a good deal if you end up needing a bigger safe.

I have about a 5k budget. I almost bought a Sturdy safe after seeing one in person the wife said there was no way one was going in her house. Sturdy safe are not the best looking safe, but I think there are a good safe and priced right. That being said they are out of the running along with all big box store safes, Fort Knox, AMSEC, and Liberty.

Any others that I should look at? Graffunders are out of my price range. I like the Brown safe, but same problem as the Sturdy.

I know most of the "safes" I listed are "RSC"

 

[Flopsweat]

Here's some info:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=570557
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4336122#post4336122

 

[OTR]

I think you should be able to get a real safe with a $5,000 budget. You can get a some really good deals on a large used TL-15 or TL-30 safes from a jeweler if you are not in a hurry. Just enter used safes in an internet search engine and see what you get.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

Used commercial composite or plate safe for $5k. Don't even bother with toy gun RSC's. If the #1 priority of purchasing security is how well it blends in with the curtains and carpets, then someone has priorities all wrong and needs a re-evaluation. It should be concealed anyhow. Having it blatantly out in the open is another security booboo.

 

[wds12679]

The safe is going in our walk in closet. Not out in the open. She will have to look at it every day. Either way a commercial safe wont pass the wifes eye test. Happy wife happy life. If I could afford it I would buy a Graffunder, but I can't. So that leaves me in a position to shop for a pretty safe that has the most security ~5k.

That being said I like the Rouge Safe "Rouge Series", They have a .5 inch plate door and 2 layers of 7 gage steel (7 gage = .179 inch .179x2=.358in). In my mind this makes it a B-rated safe or close to it. Am I wrong?

B-rated = .5 inch door and .25 inch body.

I'm not dead set on buying a Rogue. There just is not alot of info out there about them or how secure there safe's really are. I am looking for opinions about them.

And

Any other safes I should look at that would be around a B-rated safe, and pretty.
I over research everything I buy. I just want to get the best pretty safe I can for the money.

If anyone has a new Graffunder 36x72 sitting around for ~5k I will take it.

 

[xtmman]

Ya know, it may be just me, however when I look at their double door safes, they look almost identical to a lot of the safes another company manufactures. That company is Visalia Safe company out of California. Right down to the piano hinges, the same fire-barrier/insulation and the plastic grommets they places in the gun cut-outs. Google Visalia safes and see if you dont think the same.

Not saying its a bad thing...still American made.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

An item that sits inside a windowless room which you only enter and exit to retrieve shoes and clothes from has to pass the pretty test? Since when do people spend time inside a closet inspecting the the joinery of the shelves, or the cosmetics of boxes and gun safe stored inside? What exactly differentiates an acceptable safe and an unacceptable safe, cosmetically? Is it the color? The texture?

A Graffunder doesn't look any different from a commercial safe. You have to pay extra for a glossy finish otherwise you get that hammertone rustoleum finish. Companies that sell used commercial safes also often offer refinishing options because they have to make safes look presentable for resale. You can also paint it yourself. Five grand is a good chunk of change to spend on a safe. I'd hate to see someone buy an RSC made out of sheet metal because it's shiny when it can buy you plate or composite constructed safe.

 

[opsman]

I once looked at Rogue but they were a bit out of my price range and to get it dropped shipped to the east coast was a significant cost, not to mention I would be responsible for getting a 1000+lb into the house. Nothing wrong with their construction, like xtmman pointed out the look almost identical to Visalia Safe. I think if you look at the price of a Visalia vs the Rouge you might find them a bit cheaper. I like the fact that they are American made. I just ordered my safe/rsc from Superior Safe. With your budget you could afford thier top of the line Untouchable Series, 1/2 thick door plate with a 1/4 thick body, and you could get it in a color that the wife would like. I think you have lots of options within your budget, please buy American!

 

[FourTeeFive]

In that price range I really like the Securifort safes. Should be able to get a large TL15 for that price, maybe even a TL30. But they are battleship grey. How about painting it yourself, or doing your own finish with a laminate?

I would think you could get a Graffunder in that price range. Unfortunately steel has gone way up in price and their prices have gone up tremendously over the past few years.

Securifort TL-15 (narrow model):

 

[wds12679]

I'm still on the hunt. maybe I might wait a few months and get a Graffunder. What I am looking for is a B-class 36x72.

Would two layers of 7 gage be = to .25 plate??

I have been looking at the AMSEC RF6528. Its not really as big as I need.

 

[opsman]

Another company you might want to take a look at is Invincible Gunsafes http://invinciblegunsafes.com/ as they say "not just another shiny box" Other than what is on the website, I know nothing about them, but they are worth a look.

 

[FourTeeFive]

I'm still on the hunt. maybe I might wait a few months and get a Graffunder. What I am looking for is a B-class 36x72.

Just looked at a Graffunder today. Yes, one that size would be pretty expensive. Check around with a lot of dealers though. If they have one in stock they would probably be "motivated" to do a deal.

Last time I was at this place (outside of Seattle, WA, not too far from where Graffunder is built in Yakima) they had some big ones in stock:

http://www.nwsafe.com