Rolling my own AR

[mattd]

I think that was your fault Red.

But here is a website if you want to built it from a 80%, I never done it but plan to.I think you only need to drill some holes with a press and tap a few holes then blue it.

http://concealcarry.org/ar15/bs-home.htm

 

[Redlg155]

I think that was your fault Red.

Huh?..How so?


A dealer has an item in stock. I ask to reserve the item with full payment pending the reciept of an FFL. He refuses to accept payment or reserve until a FFL is recieved. He recieves my FFL 3 days later and all or a sudden it is no longer in stock. He still charges my CC for an item on backorder status with no gurantee of a delivery date.

Ya lost me on that. I've done business with many other dealers on the internet for complete weapons and stripped lowers. All were more than happy to reserve the weapon with full pre payment pending reciept of an FFL.



Good Shooting
Red

 

[curt]

I've dealt with several dealers that won't take your order for a firearm without an FFL in hand. The way i had it explained to me one time was that if the FFL never shows up then they have a firearm that is in limbo, paid for, no longer for salebut cannot be shipped. I don't remember what gunsmokes policies are but many internet businesses charge when the order is placed not when it is shipped.

Sounds to me like your deal could have fit these 2 circumstances. Did you check out their FFL and CC policies before you ordered. If you didn't then you really don't have a viable grievance.

I've done bus with gunsmoke in the past with no problems.

 

[mattd]

I see the light.

 

[Redlg155]

I don't remember what gunsmokes policies are but many internet businesses charge when the order is placed not when it is shipped.

Many other businesses only charge when the order is shipped. This includes many reputatable manufacturers/ dealers. The Company should contact the purchaser in case the item goes on a backorder status or if the item is no longer available. In my case I waited a week from the anticipated ship date before contacting them, allowing time to get the FFL to GSE and time for the product to get back to my dealer.

As for company policy...there is none listed on the internet. I checked today and they have a new website look, but still no policies listed.

Oh well.....If you've had dealings with them that went flawless..then great! All I say is folks should check feedback over at AR15.com and other places before ordering from any particular business.

Good Shooting
Red

 

[TechBrute]

Does this count as a thread hijacking? Take this discussion over to the Rate Private and Retail Transactions forum. There was a perfectly good thread about building your own AR going on.

I'm totally interested in building my own 80% reciever now. I knew people did it, but I didn't realize now trivial the skills were that are needed.

I don't have the metal tooling needed, most of my stuff is for wood working. It looks like your three options are to buy the OSI jig for $250 and locate tooling yourself, buy a complete set with tools and jig designed for more usage for $600, or do-it-yourself. Since the cheaper OSI jig is not designed for as much use, and since I typically take the Tim Taylor approach to things, I'm leaning towards the better jig. Seriously, for less than $1000 it looks like you can get the jigs and tools for the 80% lower, plus all the vice blocks, wrenches, punches, and blah blah that you'd need to completely service any AR. It's not pocket change, but within the reach of most people.

 

[444]

If you look around and keep your eyes open, you can find those jigs avialable for sale or trade. One good way to do it is to get a group buy going; buy one jig and let everyone use it.
If you do a search, you can find several very good pages on building an 80% lower.

 

[TechBrute]

LOL... yeah, that's what the bunch on this website did. They seemed to have the same experience I've had with loaning out tools. You always seem to get them back late and in worse condition than when you lent it.

I think I'm going to put together an upper from scratch first, as it requires less capital outlay and time. Once I get a few put together how I like and they shoot satisfactorily off lowers that I already have, I'll tackle the 80% lower. Since the uppers and lowers require distinctly different skills and tools, I think I'll take it one step at a time.

I think brownells will be getting a call from me today...

 

[mattd]

Buy the jig, then resell it on ebay, I'm betting you will get almost all your money back. I'd build the lower and buy everything else.

 

[TechBrute]

Lower? Did I say Lower?

I meant LowerS!!

 

[dustind]

I was planning on buying a J&T upper with a mega/stinger lower(it is forged, very high quality, and only $88) for a total cost under 600$

Pretty easy, the J&T upper has everything but the lower reciever block, you just add the parts from the J&T kit to the lower reciever and slap the two peices together. It is a nice high quality for a decent price kit. Trigger options cost more IIRC.