Romainian pioneer .177

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Pioneer Romainian youth training gun .177 This one was dated 1982 and is in 95% condition. I asked them to send me a nice one. They outdid themselves.
This is a small air gun. It’s 37.25 inches long with a pull of about 13.25 inches. The barrel is 15.25 inches. The last bit is just a muzzlebrake. The gun weighs 4.25 lbs., and the cocking effort is just 10 lbs.
It has a rifled barrel. And sling swivels. And a manual safety. And sights adjustable for elevation. The breech detent is a ball bearing, and the breech seal is a standard o-ring, that I replaced with one I found at the hardware store, as the one it came with was mashed on one side.
With 4.8-grain Crosman wadcutter the rifle averaged 520 f.p.s. The range was from 486 to 545. ten shots.,
SOME HISTORY OF YOUNG PIONEERS
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We got a bunch of these in the shop back when and they sold quickly and kept a few for fun. Many were as new and appeared unfired. Whenever there was a family get together the kids rushed in wife and I got our token greeting and bam!, out to the barn to go play with these. May still have the slings somewhere as being new they were/are stiff and never took time to put them on. Nephew could hit tiny scorpions on the back fence with cheap chinese pellets.
 
I bought one several years ago for either $14.00 or $17.00, can't remember where I bought it at. I think I got it when I placed an order for some rifles from a Wholesaler. Or it could have been Sportsmans Guide. Man it sucks getting old, prostate cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, reflux, CRS syndrome, sorry there I got on a rant. LOL.

Steve.........
 
Just a small point. Almost all had the forearm screws come loose. Some stripped out. Even one in the sale ad is missing one already. I used blue locktite to reinstall and no more problems.
 
The wood stock ones are the better ones to get. Mine was in almost new condition. The bakelite ones your taking your chance on. The forearm is both pinned and one screw on each side. Always make sure everything is tight and working.

Note rear is a brass pin. Front screw on forearm. It is not missing a screw 20201211_134607.jpg
 
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The wood stock ones are the better ones to get. Mine was in almost new condition. The bakelite ones your taking your chance on. The forearm is both pinned and one screw on each side. Always make sure everything is tight and working.

Note rear is a brass pin. Front screw on forearm. It is not missing a screw View attachment 967712
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We went thru like 3 dozen+ of these in the shop. All had 2 screws on each side of forearm. Thinking pin is a maybe a mod done to offset screw problems? Also never saw any bakelite ones in all the time we carried them. All ours came from Century long ago and were very, very cheep. Will be going thru old catalogs and invoices soon and report back, Do know we have a pile of NOS leather (?) slings around somewhere
 
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I have four of the wood stock ones. Well I've sold two after going thru them. All of the are 1983-1985 all had front screws and rear brass pin. Maybe they changed them in later years of production. From what I've learned about them they where made in various countries late 40s to early 80's.

I did tap and replace all the stock screws on each of them.both the 1985 guns had synthetic seals. The 1983s leather. With syn breach seals. Only one had the full front sight post the others had been shortened. All crono at around 460 or so.
 
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Thanks for pics. Does look like there was a screw and pin added as mod. Actually a good thing as the many of orig screws were lost out in the field and i had to scramble for replacements before nephews and neices returned for next visit. Nothing like being BBQ chef and Head armorer at same time. We liked them as very stout, easy to cock and fairly accurate. First thing kids demanded after hugs.
 
I use a piece of fiber optic. Mix epoxy 5 min. Let it set up so it's a bit tacky. Carefully place the fiber optic on with tweezers. I also wear a Optivisor so I can see. The tacky epoxy holds it in place. Just mixed epoxy will not hold in place and the optics will move.
I do this to many of my vintage airguns. Here is a Daisy and a Cosman M1 I've added it to also. tapatalk_609073655_145x258.jpeg tapatalk_1474077308_258x145.jpeg
 
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