Romney endorses Manchester GOP fundraiser with automatic weapons

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Did a search and didn't see this posted yet. You would think with all the money Mr. Romney has raised he could afford to hire someone with at least a passing familiarity of the laws concerning NFA weapons.

From the article:

"No one is suggesting that automatic weapons be made available to the public. No one is suggesting that automatic weapons be made legal," Romney said at a town hall meeting in a school gym. "I support the Second Amendment. I support the ban on (automatic weapons). They're not connected with a fundraising event where they're using weapons not available to the public."

With such "support" for the Second Amendment, his support for the First Amendment must be something like: "Well, I support the First Amendment. I support the ban on television."


From: http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070726/NEWS81/70726018

Thursday, July 26, 2007
Romney endorses Manchester GOP fundraiser with automatic weapons

By PHILIP ELLIOTT
Associated Press Writer


BEDFORD, N.H. (AP) _ Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, who supports an assault weapons ban, said he sees no problem with a Manchester City Republican Party's fundraiser where guests will use Uzis and M-16 rifles.

"No one is suggesting that automatic weapons be made available to the public. No one is suggesting that automatic weapons be made legal," Romney said at a town hall meeting in a school gym. "I support the Second Amendment. I support the ban on (automatic weapons). They're not connected with a fundraising event where they're using weapons not available to the public."

During his failed 1994 Senate run, Romney supported two gun-control measures strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association. As a 2002 gubernatorial candidate, he praised Massachusetts' strong antigun laws. And today he supports a ban on assault weapons.

The Manchester GOP fundraiser is planned for next month at the Pelham Fish and Game Club. Those who attend will get the chance to shoot Uzis, M-16 rifles and other automatic weapons. But Romney said using a weapon is different from the owning one.

"I've held the stick on an F-16 fighter jet. That doesn't mean I think the public ought to be flying F-16 fighter jets," Romney said. "Let the Manchester Republican Party do as it likes."

The former Massachusetts governor was dogged earlier this year about his hunting activities after he remarked at a campaign stop that he has been a hunter almost all his life.

The next day, in response to an Associated Press inquiry, his campaign said Romney had gone hunting just twice _ once as a teenager in Idaho and last year with GOP donors in Georgia. Officials in the four states where Romney has lived also told The Associated Press that he never took out a license.

Romney explained later that his staff was wrong and that he had hunted rabbits and other small animals for many years, mainly in Utah. Hunting certain small game there does not require a license.

On Wednesday, he tried to play up his firearms experience in New Hampshire.

"I've fired a machine gun. I was in Iraq and they gave me machine guns to fire at a target. I've fired an Uzi and I fired a couple of other weapons. ... It's hard doing that and keeping it on target," Romney said. "Those are difficult weapons to handle and our men and women have to handle them day to day out there."

He said participants in the Manchester GOP fundraiser would develop a better appreciation for the troops after the $35 fundraiser.

"I wouldn't want to be the sight of one of those things," he said. "Let them participate in that and come back with a much bigger appreciation for our military men and women in uniform in harm's way."
 
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what an idiot...

not only does he think NFA items are illegal (they're legal in MA for crying out loud!), but he thinks the AW ban banned machineguns...
 
The funny thing is, he'd machine gun his whole family to get elected. That is only stance on guns I'd count on from day to day.

Who is the bigger, more plastic phony, Romney or Edwards?
 
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A recent photo of Romney on the campaign trail!
 
While I'm not a fan of him, I get the impression either he was misquoted, or there was some miscommunication.

Romney might be anti, but I don't think he's that stupid.
 
Yes slam Romney for this statement. But in a related article we find this:

City Republican leaders are steering clear of a party fundraiser that invites donors to test their marksmanship with a loaded machine gun.

Several of the city's most prominent Republicans, including many of the party's candidates for mayor and alderman, say they will not attend the Aug. 5 event at the Pelham Fish and Game firing range.

A few raised moral objections, saying they would not support a fundraiser that packs a pro-gun message.

http://tinyurl.com/ytev4n

Or my favorite at the end:

Some local Republicans, including mayoral candidate Joe Levasseur and at-large aldermanic candidate Ray Hebert, took a different view.

"With rising crime rates, we shouldn't be the party that's out there shooting machine guns," Levasseur said.
 
The Dems who clucked about this and ficticious "rising crime rates" are telling a lie that many people have already seen right through: upper-middle-class target shooters are somehow related to violent crime. Insofar as there are violent crimes, especially in blighted urban cores, they're not generally being committed by Republican donors.
 
I'm a member of Pelham Fish & Game. You can bet they'll be hearing from me about this.

Gov Romney said:
No one is suggesting that automatic weapons be made available to the public.<-factually incorrect No one is suggesting that automatic weapons be made legal,"<-factually incorrectRomney said at a town hall meeting in a school gym. "I support the Second Amendment.<-factually incorrect I support the ban on (automatic weapons).<-unfortunately true

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not only does he think NFA items are illegal (they're legal in MA for crying out loud!), but he thinks the AW ban banned machineguns...

Not to defend Romney, but if you are going to bash him at least get your stuff straight. He never said the AWB banned machine guns in this article. He said he supports machine guns being banned.
 
Romney has failed to gain any real traction.

That could change, but at the moment I just don't see him getting any farther than he has, a steady 10%.

People don't notice him often enough to like him, or dislike him. Nobody west of Massachusetts seems to give a crap about him, really.

I'm not really concerned about what he thinks, because there's a good chance it won't ever matter to me.
 
His words from the article, not a ban but "the ban" one would have to assume the recently expired AW ban.

Only if the article was mis-read. "The ban" could be the NFA which was modified so everything from the last 20 years has been banned. The whole thing is about a machine gun shoot, and when he says no one is saying we should legalize them, and that he supports the ban, he isn't saying anything about the AWB.
 
Romney might be anti, but I don't think he's that stupid.

Well, he may not be stupid. but he IS totally IGNORANT when it comes to guns. He does not know what he is talking about, does not know guns, and does not know what the laws he is touting actually do. He knows NOTHING about guns.

Well, he is still saying clearly he is in favor of BANNING "assault weapons". He says it all the time, he is in favor of "the Second Amendment" and is in favor of an "assault weapon ban". If he were to win, with this Dem controlled congress, they may be just stupid enough (and this WOULD be stupid) to actually pass another ban and possible make it permanent.
 
I do not even need to bother reading what he said. Romney is at best a very weak supporter of the RKBA. He will not get my vote for president; maybe dog catcher though.
 
I do not even need to bother reading what he said. Romney is at best a very weak supporter of the RKBA. He will not get my vote for president; maybe dog catcher though.
Funny you should mention that.
This article.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html
The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus's rather visceral protest.
 
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