Rossi m877 blown off barrel

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this pic shows it a little better, thanks again I will let you know what Rossi customer service says tommorrow.

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Holy Crap, I will never shot a +P
from my Rossi .38 snub.
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I do it all the time. I've owned 2 .38s and a .357 M971 and all were good shooting guns. I had some snapping firing pin issues with the M971, finally got it right. I wound up trading the gun off, but I didn't carry it, it was an outdoor gun. Shot some rabbits with it using wadcutter and took a Javelina with it, once. Was a neat, light weight carry and handled all my handloads which ain't mild.

At present, I have an old 3" .38 M68 and a M511 Sportsman .22 kit gun. These two are very nice revolvers. My old M88 and my 971 were not well finished, tooling marks here and there. The 511 and especially my 68 are pretty awesome. the 68 was bought in 1981. The others were late 80s, early 90s. I also have a REALLY neat M92 Rossi .357 magnum lever action carbine. That one's a gem and a lot of fun.

I do hear a lot about snapping firing pins on the Rossis, even new production ones. I know I had the problem on the 971. I never had a firing pin snap like that on a Smith and I've owned several, still have my M10, but then, Smiths are much more expensive guns. Still, they ought to fix that problem because it's been a problem since the late 80s. It really ruins your range trip when it happens and it'd really, really ruin your day if it happened when you really needed it. I carry my Taurus 85UL, though, when I carry a .38 for self defense. I still think about that firing pin on the Rossi and, well, the little Taurus is pocket sized and has a really sweet DA trigger. I really prefer floating firing pins and transfer bars, too, to a hammer mounted one just from that experience, though I don't have a problem with carrying my M10 which is in fantastic shape for a 45 year old revolver.
 
I don't mean to appear smart alecky or anything, but I would never shoot .357 rounds out of an inexpensive Brazilian revolver, even if .357 was etched on the frame. When you get the thing fixed I would stick with .38 Specials for target practice and +P's for defense.
 
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going by the photos, the barrel gave way at the very end of the threading. Most likely stress fracture from manufacturing.

however, dont hold your breath as far as replacement from Rossi goes. youve 99.999999% voided any warranty you had. The manual for rossi says dont go over 158 grain bullets in a 38 or 357.
 
What they don't know won't hurt 'em, right?

I own a two Taurus 66s at present and I trust 'em more than the Smith 19 I had. The forcing cone area is a lot beefier on the taurus and no flat bottom. I had a K frame split the forcing cone for no apparent reason and firing wadcutters at that when it happened. I've got a few thousand rounds of 158 SWC over 14.5 grains 2400 out of my 4" 66 and more wadcutters than that. It is an early 90s gun I bought used and it's still in great shape.

I fired plenty of that same load through my Rossi 971, too, with no problems. Took a Javelina with it 15+ years ago firing a 140 Speer JHP over 17.0 grains of 2400.

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well customer service told S out of luck it was built after they bought Rossi...best he could suggest was call M&M gun-smithing to see if they can repair, dont think I will bother..too bad
 
Rossi warranty

It stinks they will not do anything. I had a S&W sigma that I'd bought used and had the frame crack after 11 rounds. Smith replaced it w/a brand new gun no questions.

Twin
 
If it was built before they bought Rossi I could understand them telling you to go pound sand, but what sense does it make that they'd send you down the line for a gun made after the aquisition?
 
Either way it makes no sense at all. I think they just lost a customer -- me. Hope it was worth it for them.
 
That is an idiotic business decision. For the price of replacing the gun they lost your business for sure, but as of right now 772 people have viewed this thread. I had seriously thought about buying a Taurus 66, but I gotta tell you I'm having second thoughts now. I know it's a different gun, but it's the same company. If I save up a little more and buy a Smith or Ruger I know they'll stand behind their products. I don't care when it was produced, if a manufacturing defect causes a potentially fatal failure it should be replaced, no questions asked.

How many of the other 772 people viewing this thread were potential customers? Maybe someone should email this thread to their customer service department.
 
I, too, WAS considering a model 66 as is a friend who is in the process of getting his FOID and handgun permit. AFAIC, when Taurus bought Rossi they bought issues such as this along with it. Actually this simplifies my choices for a .357. No Taurus and no Rossi. It's a shame too, as the M68 I've had for many years has been fine. We all make choices. Taurus/Rossi made their choice in how this was handled and people who read this thread while researching prospective purchases will make theirs.
 
PTK had it right, an overtorqued barrel, plus possibly a defective barrel to begin with. The ammo, load, and bullet weight were essentially irrelevant. When a stress crack decides to let go, it lets go and it doesn't take much.

I have seen pics of a Ruger that did that; I have not seen an S&W or Colt do it, but I would not be surprised.

Taurus's customer service position is puzzling; I wonder if they were somehow confused.

Jim
 
I think during the machining of the barrel the threads were improperly cut. Perhaps the machinist didn't pull the threading tool out fast enough and it ended up with a full circumference ring at thread depth in it. A certain stress riser if ever one was made. Then heat treatment stressed the barrel. Time bomb ticking....

Ralph
 
Glad to hear your OK. Well, Taurus if your read this, hear's another "potential" customer you've just lost. "What"? lifetime warranty? Who's "Life" time are you warranting? Any handgun "Major" malfunction needs to be investigated. i.e- possible recall. Let me ask you, When you called Customer Service, Did they speak English? (just Joking) That's a poor policy for a any weapons Manufacturer to have (before our time or not ours policy). They should step up in the name of customer satisfaction. Who is Rossi now? People will remember!
 
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Wow.

Now you have a Rossi Alaskan!:D

180 Grain .357s? What? Buffalo Bore?

I wouldn't put that through a Rossi.

But then again I wouldn't put anything through a Rossi if I could help it.

Taurus 66s are nice guns, at least any of them that I have seen. I haven't picked up a Rossi revolver that inspired confidence, though. I'm not sure what the connection is, that emerged in the thread above.
 
yet another thread showing how horrifically bad taurus's customer service is bad. i will never buy from them for this very reason.
 
Good grief. Overtorqued threads are already half broken, and it doesn't matter whether a Brazilian or an American did it. I have seen a Smith and a Ruger Redhawk (hardly a pansy gun) do the same exact thing. And if I bought a company, I certainly would not extend my superior warranty terms to everything they ever made before I bought them.
 
I had a Dan Wesson that looked like that once. Course I was changing the barrel at the time...

Glad to see you're still in one piece! Definitely get your money back!
 
Hi, Virginian,

You said, "And if I bought a company, I certainly would not extend my superior warranty terms to everything they ever made before I bought them."

Makes a lot of sense from a business viewpoint, but picking up the warranty (if parts are available) would be good PR.

BUT, Taurus customer service told the OP the opposite (#32), that they would not service it because it was built AFTER they bought Rossi. That is totally confusing.

Jim
 
Wow, that's one good looking gunsmith!

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We need more of those! I know my guns would be safe in her hands :D

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Makes a lot of sense from a business viewpoint...
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Let me get this straight... So, if someone buys Ford, I can loose factory warranty? Hmm...
 
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