Ruger’s Gunsite Scout Rifle

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I've often heard this gun refereed to as Jeff Cooper's dream rifle (or at least one embodying) a lot of his ideas. Can someone explain what those ideas are, in regards to this gun? I have to admit when I saw it I just thought, oh it's a bolt gun, but I want to know what makes it a superior bolt gun.
 
Can someone explain what those ideas are, in regards to this gun? I have to admit when I saw it I just thought, oh it's a bolt gun, but I want to know what makes it a superior bolt gun.

Cooper though that a short barreled rifle in a chambering suitable as a general prupose hunting, and military scout rifle was a good idea. If you read Cooper he was very flexible in his thoughts. He considered a bolt gun chambered in 308 with a total weight of about 6 lbs and a overall length of 39" to be perfect. He liked either a detachable magazine or something that could be loaded with stripper clips. The rifle was never intended as a front line battle rifle, but as an all round survival gun that could be used by military scouts, observers, etc.

He was flexible and also felt that a lever action in 30-30 was pretty close to his needs. He wasn't against semi's or other actions, but wanted something in a large enough chambering to also use as a hunting round for large game. Semi's in those chamberings were way too heavy for his goals.

Many think you must have a forward mounted scope to have a scout rifle. Not according to Cooper. He was perfectly happy with quality irons, but liked the flexibility of using optics. Since many rifles of his day used stripper clips for fast reloading this meant a forward mounted scope. With detachable mags I prefer a low powered scope mounted conventionally. They work much better for close fast work and for shooting at distance. The Ruger is one of the best versions in my opinion since the scope can still be mounted conventionally, removed quickly and a quality rear peep quickly placed in the rear scope base. Or mounted forward if someone wishes.

The biggest flaw of the Ruger is that it is extremely overweight by Coopers standards.
 
Cooper had a lot of ideas. Some good, some not so good. The Scout Rifle concept was more an exercise in mental gymnastics than anything else. He kept developing it by adding bipods, forward mounted low powered scope and other things. The Steyr Scout was the end result and about as close as he got.

Of course one could argue whether his scout rifle concept is even relavent in today's world.

The Ruger Gunsite rifle is sorta, kinda along the same lines. If Cooper were still alive I am not sure what he would think about the flash hider, or long single stack mag, or the weight, or the laminate stock.

I did get a chance to handle one this past weekend and I liked it a lot with the 5 round mag. However, I still don't think it does anything better than a conventional bolt action or anything as well a semi auto carbine of similar caliber.

On the other hand, I also got to handle a Ruger American. If the American had iron sights it would be great little woods gun.
 
I bought one specifically to become my go to hunting rifle. I really, really like it. It balances nice, shoots soft and fits well. I am on my phone, or i would give a more balanced review, but the short version is simply that i like it a bunch.

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Allrighty, I am at my computer now and can offer a little more insight than is practical on my phone!

I bought this gun primarily because I am going on a hog hunt (coincidentally, I am leaving tomorrow) and I simply didn't want to take my 7mmRemMag, and because my only other legitimate hunting rifle is a Model 94 that was my dads and is simply in to good a shape for its age to take outdoors. The .308 is a good, easy to find round, so that was always the direction I was heading in. It really came down between this, an AR-10 of some sort, or a Hawkeye (I love my Ruger rifles, you see!)

I chose the Scout not because of the ability to mount a scope forward, which I will likely never do. Instead I bought it because I personally like have irons, because you can still mount a scope in the traditional fashion (and I have), and because with the rail I can mount a red dot on it should I so choose. I have tried all three things, and all work as well as advertised. Also, while I did make sure that I found the gun comfortable, I won't lie: I think it looks cool.

In shooting the Scout, I really had a "Ooooooh, I see" moment when I realized what Cooper was always talking about. This thing handles fast, and while I intend to use it almost entirely as a hunting arm, with some paper punching thrown in for fun, I certainly can see where this would be a solid arm to meet the general needs as described by Cooper. It shoots soft and accurately with a trigger thats good enough that I don't have any nitpicks about it. Also, I love the carbine size. Fantastic woods gun, though so far my experience with carrying it in the woods have been more me hiking the river with it one day just to test it out.

I won't be getting rid of mine, but it does have it's issues, or at least it has things I don't like. First and foremost, the plastic spacers that come with the gun that allow you to adjust length of pull (which is a great idea) fit in a less that pleasing way. It's not bad, but considering the rest of the gun is nicely finished and well put together, it's just sort of a smear that I wish wasn't there. Secondly, I am not a huge fan of the style of the irons. I don't hate them, but I wish they were more along the lines of an AR aperture setup instead of the mini-14 arrangement. Thats a personal qualm, but I shoot the smaller aperature better than the larger one, and my 100 yard groups confirmed that given that they hovered around 3 inches, give or take. Accuracy was perfectly acceptable, but I know that I can shoot an AR better than that at 100 and because I have also shot the Scout with a scope on it, I know that it is much better (reduced groups by half or more) than what those irons would indicate. Still, they are perfectly acceptable for what I intend to do, so it's more of a personal quibble.

Other than that, I have no complaints. I have run about 100 rounds downrange to familiarize, zero and have fun, and with every shot I am glad I chose this rifle. It's a little more expensive than what a Hawkeye would have been, and certainly more expensive that the Ruger American is, but it has features neither of those have, and importantly to me, it's a carbine. I am the type of guy that doesn't change hunting rifles very often. My 7mag has been with me since I was 15 years old, and until just very recently, it was more than sufficient for all my hunting requirements. Chances are very strong that this will be the last hunting rifle I buy for a very long time, if in fact I ever buy another one.
 
Gun store I work in part time has 3 new Gunsite Ruger's on the wall, all have the metal AICS mags. I'd really love to buy one or at least try one out sooner or later.
 
We had some threads here, back when they first came on the market. As I said then, yes, I'd shot one which belonged to a friend. Far more pluses than minuses. If I wanted a .308 I might buy one for a truck gun and general-purpose hunting rifle. I understand that a lower-capacity magazine is available, which would make it more usable for the way I commonly carry a rifle.
 
I like 'em, but I haven't been able to find one. I've been looking for a few weeks now. I figure they will catch up with production in a few months and I'll get my chance to buy one.
 
I like 'em, but I haven't been able to find one. I've been looking for a few weeks now. I figure they will catch up with production in a few months and I'll get my chance to buy one.
Gun store my buddy owns and I work in part time has 3 brand new Gunsite Scout's on the wall. Neat gun and i would love to shoot one, just not something i'm looking to buy.
 
I like the looks of them. But if I wanted to grab a "scout" rifle, I would grab my CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39. Now that is one handy little rifle, with good iron sights, detachable magazines, fast handling, amazing trigger, and weighing less than 6 pounds.

The only thing you cant do with it is a forward mounted scope. But other than that, it fits the bill perfectly.
 
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