Obturation
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Hey all,
Hope you folks are feeling well. I've hit a little bump in the road for my carbine (rifle?). I'm not very experienced with long gun optics, typically just use iron sights of one kind or another or a holographic (or red dot,whatever) and call it good. When I bought this 77/357 in March I planned on just leaving it light weight and compact as possible, I had a bushnell banner (3-9x-ish) laying around that had been bought cheap when the local gander mountain closed and I decided to mount it for load development to help me determine the most accurate load a bit easier and planned to remove the scope once I had it all figured out- maybe goofy logic, but I'm not much of a long gun guy as it is and I just thought it was feasibly the right plan.
First range test was good, scope zeroed easily at 50 yards and all was well. I went home with plans to tweak my standard 357 load around a little and return for further testing. A couple weeks later, 50 yard zero was way off. Hadn't dropped or jostled the gun at all and just couldn't figure it could be so far off. Attempts at re-zero proved impossible . 8" randomly dispersed groups at 50 , even with the load I originally zeroed for. Popped the scope off and realized the little 357 rifle had killed that scope in under 200 rounds, shot fine with the irons. Cheap is cheap but junk is useless. I will admit that I'm frugal but have no problem spending money to be well equipped and I'm realistic about the cost of quality optics , I decided I do want to have a compact, rugged , low magnification sight for this gun long term.
What would you all recommend for my situation ? I basically never shoot over 100 yards and I'm not trying to neuter gnats from a football field away. Just want something durable and compact that won't leave me wishing I had spent a little more. Obvious choice to me was the leupold vx-freedom 1.5-4x20 , but I have no experience with any quality optics ( best I own is an eotech on an AR) . I'm willing to get what's best but don't want to go overboard and end up spending more than I need to but also don't want to wish I had bought better if I'm unsatisfied. So tough, high quality and compact are my requirements , suggestions please.
-as a secondary question, are the factory ruger rings acceptable or should I buy higher quality ruger style rings from another maker or mount a rail ? In my amature opinion, the factory rings seem fine but I'm a Neanderthal and know basically nothing about it.
Thanks!
Hope you folks are feeling well. I've hit a little bump in the road for my carbine (rifle?). I'm not very experienced with long gun optics, typically just use iron sights of one kind or another or a holographic (or red dot,whatever) and call it good. When I bought this 77/357 in March I planned on just leaving it light weight and compact as possible, I had a bushnell banner (3-9x-ish) laying around that had been bought cheap when the local gander mountain closed and I decided to mount it for load development to help me determine the most accurate load a bit easier and planned to remove the scope once I had it all figured out- maybe goofy logic, but I'm not much of a long gun guy as it is and I just thought it was feasibly the right plan.
First range test was good, scope zeroed easily at 50 yards and all was well. I went home with plans to tweak my standard 357 load around a little and return for further testing. A couple weeks later, 50 yard zero was way off. Hadn't dropped or jostled the gun at all and just couldn't figure it could be so far off. Attempts at re-zero proved impossible . 8" randomly dispersed groups at 50 , even with the load I originally zeroed for. Popped the scope off and realized the little 357 rifle had killed that scope in under 200 rounds, shot fine with the irons. Cheap is cheap but junk is useless. I will admit that I'm frugal but have no problem spending money to be well equipped and I'm realistic about the cost of quality optics , I decided I do want to have a compact, rugged , low magnification sight for this gun long term.
What would you all recommend for my situation ? I basically never shoot over 100 yards and I'm not trying to neuter gnats from a football field away. Just want something durable and compact that won't leave me wishing I had spent a little more. Obvious choice to me was the leupold vx-freedom 1.5-4x20 , but I have no experience with any quality optics ( best I own is an eotech on an AR) . I'm willing to get what's best but don't want to go overboard and end up spending more than I need to but also don't want to wish I had bought better if I'm unsatisfied. So tough, high quality and compact are my requirements , suggestions please.
-as a secondary question, are the factory ruger rings acceptable or should I buy higher quality ruger style rings from another maker or mount a rail ? In my amature opinion, the factory rings seem fine but I'm a Neanderthal and know basically nothing about it.
Thanks!