Ruger 77 or Remington 700
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ruger,no trigger probs
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Which savage? Axis, Hunter, Classic or Weather Warrior!
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RUGER RUGER RUGER!!!!!!
I love the Ruger!!!!
However, the scope base is special to Rugers, so if you want to mount a 30mm tube diameter scope, you will be out a few bucks. That is the only con of that rifle that I can think of.
If you want to get the Remington, it is the most versatile bolt gun on the market today, as far as modifications that you can do, if you want a "tactical" looking stock, great, pretty much anybody will be happy to sell you a "tactical" stock for your Rem. If you are legally allowed a detachable magazine for what you are doing with it, go ahead, change it out to a detachable box magazine. There are some modification stocks and things that you can get for the Ruger, just not as many, and I like the standard configuration just fine.
All said and done, I really, really, really, really liked the Ruger .30-06 that I got to shoot (don't own one.... yet); now I am not saying that the Remington is a bad gun, but I really liked the Ruger.
Just my $0.04
I love the Ruger!!!!
However, the scope base is special to Rugers, so if you want to mount a 30mm tube diameter scope, you will be out a few bucks. That is the only con of that rifle that I can think of.
If you want to get the Remington, it is the most versatile bolt gun on the market today, as far as modifications that you can do, if you want a "tactical" looking stock, great, pretty much anybody will be happy to sell you a "tactical" stock for your Rem. If you are legally allowed a detachable magazine for what you are doing with it, go ahead, change it out to a detachable box magazine. There are some modification stocks and things that you can get for the Ruger, just not as many, and I like the standard configuration just fine.
All said and done, I really, really, really, really liked the Ruger .30-06 that I got to shoot (don't own one.... yet); now I am not saying that the Remington is a bad gun, but I really liked the Ruger.
Just my $0.04
firesky101
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Marlin x7 i don't remember which gun rag reviewed all the popular synthetic bolt actions, but it was the most accurate and smooth for the $$$.
pikid89
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actually mauserlover that is incorrect
if you send the 1" rings back to Ruger they will send you the required ring diameter and height that you need for no additional cost
I voted the Ruger, me, my mom, and brother all hunt with some variation of the m77..
me, Original Tang Safety M77 .270
brother, M77 MKII all weather .270 canoe paddle
mom, M77 Compact Laminate/ Stainless .243
dad had one too but he switched to the Ruger No.1...sweet rifle but thats another story
( and just to show non bias lol sister hunts with a Rem 700 ADL .243 youth)
of todays American production hunting rifles, the M77 is the clear standout as the roughest toughest hell and back bolt rifle...proven mauser action, monster claw extractor, milled scope bases eliminate the problem of loose bases, controlled feed
may not be 1/2 MOA accurate but last time I checked, the kill zone on most every animal is larger than that
james layman
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Rem 700 V M77
My friend said everything is concentric. Meaning bolt, receiver, barrel, is all aligned on center. He believes this the key to accuracy, if that matters. Jim
My friend said everything is concentric. Meaning bolt, receiver, barrel, is all aligned on center. He believes this the key to accuracy, if that matters. Jim
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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There's a stainless Ruger Hawkeye .30-06 sitting in the safe that has become my go to rifle------won't ever buy another Remington.
My #1 pick is the new FN produced Winchester. Only a little more expensive than the Ruger and less expensive than the Remington CDL. Ruger would be #2 for me. Remingtons aren't as bad as they get credit for on the net and Savages aren't as good as the internet chatter would indicate.
Doug B.
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I am not impressed with the quality of Remington firearms (also includes H & R, Marlin and Bushmaster) since Cerberus/Freedom Arms took over. 2007 I believe. They need to get their feces in a group. I definitely would look at a Ruger.
gpb
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Savage, Browning, Winchester
personaly i have 2 weather worriors i like them.go with the classics if you would like a wood stock over plastic.I think the classic is available in either blue or stainless and the hunter is blue only in a plastic stock.all three use the same action.the axis is a completely different rifle. if you just want a cheap hunting rifle that your only going to shoot a few times a year and never try to make any mods to the axis is ok they are accurate but thet are an economy rifle.
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Having recent experience with late model rifles from Ruger, Remington, and others;
It would be a toss up between the Ruger "Hawkeye" and the Winchester M70.
Which one, depends on price/caliber, version of the rifle. Ruger has stepped up from their past quality with the Hawkeye and the "new" trigger is just as easy to tune as the older ones, maybe easier. The FN, South Carolina Win. Mod.70's are excellent quality but I haven't had the opportunity to shoot/work with one. From what I've seen of metal and wood on new ones in the shops, I like what I see.
As another poster mentioned above, the Remingtons aren't quite as bad as they're tarnished on the internet, and the Savages/Marlin X's aren't quite as good as portrayed. I know, I've had both. But, indeed, the Marlin X's are the best bet for the money, but don't try to compare one with a Winchester Mod.70 Super-Grade. I almost bought the one I handled. And at near $1,000.00, it had to be really impressive to make me drop the $$$$. But, just couldn't pull the trigger on another .270.......
It would be a toss up between the Ruger "Hawkeye" and the Winchester M70.
Which one, depends on price/caliber, version of the rifle. Ruger has stepped up from their past quality with the Hawkeye and the "new" trigger is just as easy to tune as the older ones, maybe easier. The FN, South Carolina Win. Mod.70's are excellent quality but I haven't had the opportunity to shoot/work with one. From what I've seen of metal and wood on new ones in the shops, I like what I see.
As another poster mentioned above, the Remingtons aren't quite as bad as they're tarnished on the internet, and the Savages/Marlin X's aren't quite as good as portrayed. I know, I've had both. But, indeed, the Marlin X's are the best bet for the money, but don't try to compare one with a Winchester Mod.70 Super-Grade. I almost bought the one I handled. And at near $1,000.00, it had to be really impressive to make me drop the $$$$. But, just couldn't pull the trigger on another .270.......
Abel
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There is some truth to that! I would go with a M77 over the M70 because it costs a bit less and it comes in a lefty 25-06.
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Right now we live in a good world for bolt action choices..it can be daunting though to pick one. If it is at all possible, I would suggest going to a big store like Bass Pro, Cabelas, Sportsmen Warehouse, et al... and try and handle a few different rifles. There seems to be two main types of rifles emerging these days: the higher end, more traditionally constructed rifles and the more budget type slip fit barrel rifles. There is really nothing wrong with either type. The higher end would include Remington 700, Ruger M77, Winchester M70, Sako 85, etc. The budget types would include the new Ruger American, Savage 10 and 110 variations, and the Marlin and Mossberg rifles.
If I want were planning on using a rifle daily, I would go with the 77, 70, 700, or the Howa 1500 series. They are all very accurate and durable rifles. If you are only planing on hunting a few times a year, then the rest are applicable and it might be a good way to save some money and buy ammo for practice.
Either way, rifles are a very subjective subject (as you can see by all the passionate responses) and really come down to how the feel in your hands and appeal to your eye.
Good luck and let us know what you end up with.
If I want were planning on using a rifle daily, I would go with the 77, 70, 700, or the Howa 1500 series. They are all very accurate and durable rifles. If you are only planing on hunting a few times a year, then the rest are applicable and it might be a good way to save some money and buy ammo for practice.
Either way, rifles are a very subjective subject (as you can see by all the passionate responses) and really come down to how the feel in your hands and appeal to your eye.
Good luck and let us know what you end up with.
jakk280rem
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I voted Ruger, but if I had a couple extra bills I'd take a close look at the Browning X-Bolt.
H2oPumper
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Every gun has it's pros and cons, and it's easy to find cons on these boards. When it comes to resolving those cons with the manufacturer, my experience with Ruger had been excellent. I had to ship a rifle in for an evaluation. They arranged pre-paid pickup on a Tuesday and I had it back in my hands the following Thursday and on that Saturday I had venison. I was left feeling with a personal touch with customer service and there was no cost to me whatsoever on a three year old rifle. I won't say the manufacturer, but a buddy has a year old gun that isn't right and needs to go back and that manufacturer is trying to time the warranty and arrange his own shipping. Kudos for Ruger customer service.
As would I. Though I'd get it in 375H&H
bearman49709
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First choice Browning X-bolt, second Winchester 70.
mdauben
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Another vote for a Savage. Personally, I'd go for the Classic as I like blued barrels and wood stocks, but the Hunter and Weather Warrior are just as good if you like the syth stocks and/or stainless barrels.
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