Ruger American pistol!?

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helitack32f1 said:
I know, right! I mean, besides the controls being different and the grip and the grip inserts and the take down method and the grip angle and the looks and the extractor and probably the style of rifling and the apparent bore axis and the slide shape and the different slide serrations, this thing is almost an exact copy of a Glock! My guess is, there might be a couple of minor differences internally that separate it just a bit from the Glock but probably not enough to make up for the obvious copy-cat exterior.
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Love it!
 
Just downloaded the manual, the American is Ruger's answer to the SIG 320. Very similar in construction. Theoretically should provide good competition to the other manufacturers of polymer frame striker fired guns. I would be very surprised if Ruger didn't compete in the Army/FBI trials.
 
I actually like the look of the blend of other semi autos, but it seems a little thick for a 9mm.
Knowing Ruger they'll probably get the compact out pretty quick as well.
 
Ruger has really done a great job of secrecy and rumor control. We didn't even know about the pistol until a couple days before release. Not even a peep. I'm impressed.

It's a surprisingly ugly pistol. Too many lines and angles, with a Keltec style muffin top above the grip. Possibly just to make it look different than the SR9. Looks ergonomic, though. I'd love to handle one, although I'm going to have to wait for the first recall before I think about buying one :p.

The subframe suggests that this might be Ruger's answer to the Sig P320. Ruger's engineering lately has perhaps been more ...inspired than innovative, so I wonder how close it is internally.

The American manual doesn't show subframe removal, which is disappointing. I was hoping that Ruger, unlike Sig, could price their frame/slide/barrel kits low enough to make a modular pistol worthwhile.

I would imagine that we will see an American Compact fairly soon. Probably before the VP9 compact, I'm guessing.

The name and price are interesting. Ruger seems to have been using the "American" sub-brand for budget guns, but this one isn't.

I wonder if the CEO changed his mind about the pistol trials.

From here: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...my-finally-releases-solicitation-for-xm17-mhs
Mike Fifer said:
“There’s enormous cause to participate and an extremely low likelihood for any one company of winning it,” he said.

“If you win it, obviously you’re in the capital receipt for the next 25 years, but I have a feeling competing for it’s going to be a little bit like being hit against a brick wall, and you’ll feel real good when you stop,” he said.

“The risk factor of putting the huge investment of time, people and money into competing for something that there’s really very low likelihood of winning even if you have a much better product,” he said. “And so those are kind of the pros and cons right there.”
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oss117 said:
I predict the SR's will be retired soon and we'll see compact versions of the American.
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I think the SR will stick around for a while - at least as the 9E version.

The MSRP of this gun is $575. Street price should be $450 - maybe $425 at the lowest. Ruger will still need a ~$300 gun to compete in that market.

Much like they kept the P95 around (but discontinued most of the rest of the P-series) after they introduced the SR9 itself, I'm thinking the SR9E will stick around after the American his shelves.

At least for a few years. Then they'll come out with a budget model American and release their newer even betterer full-size 9mm :).

FWIW, I'm intrigued. Ruger doesn't seem to be afraid of releasing an entirely new model to implement relatively small improvements. I've got a P95 and an SR9 - I'll probably end up with one of these too :).
 
I wonder if this is why we haven't seen an SR45c...? I would like to see an American 45 Compact...
 
MSRP of 575$!!! LOL

I was hoping it would come in at the $300 mark, at that price it'll flop for sure.
 
MSRP of 575$!!! LOL

I was hoping it would come in at the $300 mark, at that price it'll flop for sure.
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Some of the early adopters might pay MSRP but Rugers usually sell for a 80% of MSRP. In other words once the new wears off these will probably be selling somewhere between $400-$450.
 
It's really disappointing that this American branded gun swayed so far away from their excellent budget rifles price to performance ratio.

If this was an MSRP $350 pistol, as it should be for its gigantic, ugly looks, I'd stand in line to buy one. But at, even as you said, $450 street, it's just got so much competition against decade long performers.

I'm calling flop.
 
Well, after my initial negativity about this gun, it is growing on me very quickly. I have watched quite a few videos and it just sounds like a very high quality gun. It would be nice if this turns out to finally be a Ruger that police agencies will take a serious look at. I still want an SR9E though. Then maybe one of these.

This vid has a pretty good luck at the inside as well as the outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_oBEQzRkcg
 
It is interesting that the American Rifleman article described a variant that would meet the Army's MHS requirements, but Ruger is releasing a 'civilian' version.
 
mgmorden said:
I think the SR will stick around for a while - at least as the 9E version.

The MSRP of this gun is $575. Street price should be $450 - maybe $425 at the lowest. Ruger will still need a ~$300 gun to compete in that market.

Much like they kept the P95 around (but discontinued most of the rest of the P-series) after they introduced the SR9 itself, I'm thinking the SR9E will stick around after the American his shelves.

At least for a few years. Then they'll come out with a budget model American and release their newer even betterer full-size 9mm :).

FWIW, I'm intrigued. Ruger doesn't seem to be afraid of releasing an entirely new model to implement relatively small improvements. I've got a P95 and an SR9 - I'll probably end up with one of these too :).
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The SR series will stay around because they're the only large size pistol Ruger makes that CA and MA approved.

The American will never be approved for California and Mass won't approve it for a while, so the SR will be still be here. Now, I wonder what will happen with the SR prices?
 
TruthTellers said:
The SR series will stay around because they're the only large size pistol Ruger makes that CA and MA approved.

The American will never be approved for California and Mass won't approve it for a while, so the SR will be still be here. Now, I wonder what will happen with the SR prices?
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Not true. The SR series is no longer on the california roster. The only 9mm auto there now is the p95 which isn't manufactured anymore. It will probably be gone as of 1/1/2017. Here's the 9s.

KP95PR / Stainless Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.9" 9mm 1/1/2016
P95PR / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.9" 9mm 1/1/2016
LCR 5456 / Stainless Steel; Polymer Revolver 1.87" 9mm 1/1/2017
 
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Kinda surprised that Ruger bit-the-bullet and put out a semi-auto handgun without an external safety.

I think I'd like it more if it had a beavertail safety like the M&P series. Either way, I don't think I'll be adding one to my collection.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing an ultra-compacted 1911 like Kimber puts out. That's something I could sink my teeth into.
 
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