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Is this a good .357 revolver? How does it compare to the SP-101 or the LCR .357?
Is the GP-100 really up in the $700 range?
Is the GP-100 really up in the $700 range?
I had a SP-101 snub in .357 and a LCR +P in .38. Couldn't hit a thing with those guns. That's why I am looking at a GP-100. The Smith's revolvers are just too expensive.It's a fantastic revolver, like a big SP101 and all steel unlike the LCR. Last I saw they were running around the $575-600 range for stainless, less for blued.
Aren't those Smith revolvers Mod. 66 remake classic or 686 in the $800+ range?I'm not crazy about the Ruger GP-100, especially the 6-incher. In my view it's a boat anchor. By cutting off the grip, then adding an underlug to the barrel, it becomes way too front-heavy. But try it at the gun store and see for yourself; you may not agree.
I have a Smith 686 6-inch and I believe it's a bit too front-heavy, as well. But it's extraordinarily accurate and has much better balance. I also have a 6-inch Ruger Security-Six, and the weight and balance are perfect. But it's no longer available unless you find a good used one.
Right now I'd recommend the new Smith & Wesson 6- or 4.5-inch Model 66 Combat Magnum. It's light weight, has outstanding balance and can shoot a steady diet of full magnum loads. It's just been released, so I have no idea when it'll appear on dealer's shelves.
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The early Smith 686 was arguably the best .357 production gun made. It was intended
to be a better revolver than the Colt Python, and after extensive testing, it appeared they
succeeded. The new Model 66 appears to be very accurate, too.
What he said, with the addition that it also good concealed in a waist pack.I have a GP100 6" barrel. It is big, heavy, and feels longer than 6" due to the under barrel lug. It shoots .357 Magnum with ease and with no punishment to the shooter whatsoever.
It's a great open carry holster gun or a range gun.
The early Smith 686 was arguably the best .357 production gun made. It was intended
to be a better revolver than the Colt Python, and after extensive testing, it appeared they
succeeded. The new Model 66 appears to be very accurate, too.
I used to have a Ruger SP-101 by Lipsey Distributors. Really nice snubby but couldn't hit target at range. Very nice compact .357.Both GP100s and SP101s are great revolvers. I actually CC a 3" GP100 with a large, loose shirt or a jacket. Otherwise, I'll CC the SP101.
I HAD a LCR .38 +P talk about recoil. This is first and foremost up close only for personal protection. Not a range gun. It felt like it was exploding in my hand. It had the greatest double action pull very smooth. I can't imagine what the LCR in .357 feels like as it only gets worse with this light of a gun.We have a 2 1/4" sp101 in .357, an lcr .38 special and a 3" fixed sight gp100 .357. They are all quite different. The lcr trigger is superior by far and if you have trouble shooting one in double action then the others will be worse. The sp101 trigger is heavy and smooth and fairly consistent but the gp100 has a long pull and stacks badly despite having a lighter pull than sp101. I plan to swap springs on the gp100 in an attempt to reduce trigger stacking.
For ccw the lcr is fantastic. I prefer smaller grips for carry than the hogue tamers. The sp101 will do fine if you're dedicated to carrying it but it takes more effort, but you also gain a reduction in recoil and the factory grips are a good compromise for range and carry. I traded into the 3" gp100 and didn't have a role for it to fill so it hasn't been used much but it's definitely just a range gun for now. Maybe with a coat and some compact grips it would be serviceable for ccw. I admit that the fixed sights and 3" barrel make for a well balanced and visually appealing gun.
Try those Buffalo Bore loads. I have never seen any gun in any caliber kick like that factory ammo. Very violent recoil.I felt the same way. We rented a .357 and despite being marginally heavier than the .38 special model it was unpleasant to shoot. Recoil was severe enough with low end factory loads that I knew we would never take advantage of the magnum capalities. In fact, last week I ran 10 rounds of Barne's vor-tex 140gr .357 through the sp101 and found my hands hurt the next day. Potent stuff. No idea what it chronographs at from a 2" barrel.
Does the SP-101 measure up to the GP-100 when both have equal barrel lengths?We have a 2 1/4" sp101 in .357, an lcr .38 special and a 3" fixed sight gp100 .357. They are all quite different. The lcr trigger is superior by far and if you have trouble shooting one in double action then the others will be worse. The sp101 trigger is heavy and smooth and fairly consistent but the gp100 has a long pull and stacks badly despite having a lighter pull than sp101. I plan to swap springs on the gp100 in an attempt to reduce trigger stacking.
For ccw the lcr is fantastic. I prefer smaller grips for carry than the hogue tamers. The sp101 will do fine if you're dedicated to carrying it but it takes more effort, but you also gain a reduction in recoil and the factory grips are a good compromise for range and carry. I traded into the 3" gp100 and didn't have a role for it to fill so it hasn't been used much but it's definitely just a range gun for now. Maybe with a coat and some compact grips it would be serviceable for ccw. I admit that the fixed sights and 3" barrel make for a well balanced and visually appealing gun.
I had a Model 66 S & W 4 inch .357 I bought in 1983 for $257 brand new. Now these new Model 66 revolvers Smith is releasing is around $800? Too much $$$$$I'm not crazy about the Ruger GP-100, especially the 6-incher. In my view it's a boat anchor. By cutting off the grip, then adding an underlug to the barrel, it becomes way too front-heavy. But try it at the gun store and see for yourself; you may not agree.
I have a Smith 686 6-inch and I believe it's a bit too front-heavy, as well. But it's extraordinarily accurate and has much better balance. I also have a 6-inch Ruger Security-Six, and the weight and balance are perfect. But it's no longer available unless you find a good used one.
Right now I'd recommend the new Smith & Wesson 6- or 4.5-inch Model 66 Combat Magnum. It's light weight, has outstanding balance and can shoot a steady diet of full magnum loads. It's just been released, so I have no idea when it'll appear on dealer's shelves.
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The early Smith 686 was arguably the best .357 production gun made. It was intended
to be a better revolver than the Colt Python, and after extensive testing, it appeared they
succeeded. The new Model 66 appears to be very accurate, too.