Ruger LCP clip defect (?)

[benderx4]

Ruger lost many many old customers and good name recognition over the LCP and its accessories.

Let's not forget the SR9 fiasco either, shall we?

Not trying to Ruger bash here as I'm the proud owner of several 10/22s and a couple Mark IIIs but what the heck is going on over there? They have, in fact, with the SRP and LCP, done quite a bit of damage to their otherwise excellent reputation (especially with revolvers and 22s).

 

[benderx4]

One last thing, being an Orlandoite myself, I've had the occasion to visit this dealer MANY times myself.

The name of the store is Shoot Straight. There is a store in Tampa, Apopka, and one in Castleberry. The owner of the stores is the biggest A**hole you ever want to meet. That "mentality" trickles down to the store managers, but not, thankfully, to most of the poor guys that work there.

The prices they have marked on their guns are nuts, especially now that Obama is the man. You HAVE to barter with these guys, and build a repoirte with one of the "cool" assistant managers that have the authority to name a price. Otherwise, you WILL be ripped off. (For example, $1200 for a NIB HK45)

I saw they had a LCP there months ago for $599. I shoot there regularly and have traded several guns so I consider myself a good customer. When I asked what "my" price would be, they said $599, and looked at me as if I were stupid. I don't plan on EVER purchasing a gun from the store again.

(This place also has the largest display, by far, at the Central Florida Gun Show every other month.) The manager usually there is a good guy (he rides around on a Segue) and you can normally make a good deal at the gun show.)

 

[erkme73]

Thanks for the dealer name correction - I've gone back to my original post and changed it to Shoot vs. Shooting.

 

[orchidhunter]

All of the uncompensated Ruger beta testors, where do they all come from? orchidhunter

 

[trapnm]

"Is the mag release plastic? I had the same problem with a P3AT. Especially if there was a little pinky rest on the bottom of the mag. The downward pressure on the mag while shooting damaged the mag release after just a few mags full. KT replaced the button. But I had to give up on the pinky rests. That's the main reason I sold mine."


Test fired the Ruger LCP at the range 2 weeks ago. Our department got 2 in for T&E. One performed flawlessly. The other appeared to have an issue with the mage release and kept popping the mag out after every round. Further examination showed that a chunk of the polymer mag release had broken off, not allowing it to fully catch/hold the mag upon firing. It's being shipped back for a fix. It'd be great to see the catch replaced with a stonger material.

 

[Tirod]

I agree that a metal mag release would be better.

Elsewhere on a forum I read the response from a Ruger service tech for slipping mags was to insert and slap them firmly the first few times. The shape of the detent apparently needs some breaking in, and the owner who did that saw immediate relief from the problem.

Of course, slapping them hard enough to break is a different thing altogether.

I'm looking forward to the acessory market coming out with a metal mag catch, among lots of things that will probably be offered. LCP's aren't going away, and the recalls are actually based on drop safety improvements, not a "defect" as so many contend. That's NOT something that happens in Detroit - you don't get an improvement in performance and safety, just repair.

Ruger's designs DID meet Federal safety standards; they do even better now. That's the extra mile Ruger will go, just like the SAA. There's another case of it not being a defect, just not as safe as modern society prefers - expecially with more lawyers than doctors soliciting business, and many gravitating to politics.

If the nitpickers could get their facts straight it wouldn't look so much like fanboy hazing from nonowners.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

That's NOT something that happens in Detroit - you don't get an improvement in performance and safety, just repair.

Actually, you do. My wife's Tahoe had a safety defect -- windshield wiper motors would fail. Chevy replaced them all.

 

[Tirod]

And, did they make it do MORE than it did before?

I don't expect they did. Detroit recalls are for safety defects - Ruger's recalls are for safety improvements.

My wife's van is under a recall for the steering wheel hose replacement because some will vibrate excessively and rupture, causing an engine fire.

Ruger's recall is to improve the safety beyond the government standard they already met. They also offer all the production improvements to address problems a small number of pistols had - which already received customer service. Ruger is also giving a free magazine away, too.

I don't expect the dealer to also fill my tank or install mag wheels because hubcaps can inadvertently come off in hard cornering.

Repairs are quite different than improvements - Ruger is already repairing specific firearms. The recall is inclusive for ANY LCP - and most of those, like mine, had no functional problems whatsoever.

So, if Chevy is installing multispeed wipers with eternal blades and rain sensing capability - on every Tahoe ever made - you got a better deal.

Otherwise, it was just a repair.

 

[Nise]

Same prob

I fought against my friends advice when I picked up an LCP yesterday. They hate the 380 and most would rather depend on a 22 in something like the pop up beretta, ahh well.

Picked it up and a couple boxes of Remington Ball. shot partial box yesterday, only probs were from too loose a grip, (little bugger hard to hold on to, like pinching a grasshopper, didn't want to get tabacco on me, lol). Once I held it proper and pulled my head out, no probs. Had to finish off box today. It is new, it is 370-xxxxxx series with only one mag, finger rest mag, half a diamond is stamped in hammer slot, (half? come on). Mag was popping out partially today thus not feeding next round. After close inspection I noticed that the mag release button is above surface I thought I might be bumping it, so i tucked my thumb behind my middle finger, still about every two or three shots. fired it left handed, still! Let two friends shoot it, happened once to each of them w/ 5 shots. I think that w/ a firm grip, thus exerting some downward pressure, upon firing it pops loose. I looked down the mag well, it looks plastic, would've thought the release would be steel? at least aluminum? It does show wear, w/ 50 rounds!?! think you can see from the pics that it is slightly rounded and shows some wear. thoughts anyone? Emailed Ruger, waiting for response. Should've went w/ Beretta 22. I wondered if it would be better not having the finger rest. Also waiting for an eight round extended mag to come out, someone plz lol, (thought i'd prove my friends wrong, hmmm guess not, not to mention having no assurity for myself, this lil critter might be a live n learn lesson!

 

[Nise]

closer up, lol

perhaps see bit better here. something like this makes me want to file the release down to avoid accidental mag drop, as well as replicating an aluminum or steel lockup for it, but not w/ a new one! (unless I get dumped on.)

 

[F1]

That's exactly what the Ruger tech told me to file down to fix the chambering problem I was having in my post-recall LCP. I did and so far so good.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Somehow these reports fill me with a burning desire to run out and not buy an LCP.

 

[jocko]

Ruger has now come out with a metal mag release. some of the re-mods are coming back with it in.

I wolud say call Ruger and they will probalby send u one free. I don't expect to see a recall for this little but troubling issue for some.

I have 1550 rounds thorugh my lcp and with the new pinky extension and plastic release I have had zero issus.

My bet every new ruger lcp comeing out the factory now will have the metal mag release in it. Again 90% of the plastic release shooters don't seem to be having issue, so I do not consider it pandemic, but I do think down the road Ruger will provide free of charge that part to you but installation will be your problem. Just my 2 cents worth

 

[Mad Magyar]

I'm surprised you could hold on to it, one hand of course...The grip is so small; surprised they didn't pick up on S&W and called it a LadyRuger!
I tried it on the range, rapid fire and it almost jumped out of my hand...No hiccups, would make a good B.U.G.....

 

[Nise]

feedback

no news from Ruger yet, but did talk to owner of shop and he set me up w/ a new lcp, (still 370-xxxxxx diamond stamp). I picked up a couple mags, w/out finger rest and think the original mags might hold up better. I think that depending upon your hand size the force that is exerted downward by your shooting ring finger coupled w/ the act of firing can exert too much pressure on the weeny latch.

Jocko, thanks, im gonna wait and see if Ruger will send me the metal latch. also, has anyone heard talk of slight file job to release button? cant stand how it isn't flush? on such a small grip i can see how a slight grip adjustment could drop ur mag but I hate to start filing and realize it's hollow, lol?

i'm tentative but couldn't resist getting a pocket pistol before inaug day tomorrow. good excuse to give wife and the price was right. i would have waited until they were out a while and tried and proven but do to the scary bills and ever new ones, i couldn't help myself.

can you believe the stuff they come up with?? H.R 45
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[Nise]

Q? point of aim and ammo selection? I haven't given up, actually once I swallowed the lump in my throat I'm getting excited again. Picked up Remington Ball 95gr, super dirty when cleaned after ~50 rnds. tried a few speer 100 gr hp, w/ med to upper charge of unique, didn't seem any diff from factory. also picked up some 90 gr Gold Dots w/ a decent loading of unique, have yet to try those.

Point of impact seems to be about 3" low at 7yds, I painted front sight white and if i level the rear w/ the top front of the slide, I seem to be in the park at 15-20yds.

 

[gglass]

I love my little (post-recall) LCP. I have at least 900 rnds though mine. The biggest problem I have is that so many people want to try it out at the range.

((( I did do a ramp polish for a good friend, and his dropped mags when they were first inserted. After trying different magazines to isolate the issue, it just cleared itself up, and the problem has never returned. He now has at least 400 rnds though his LCP now. )))

I do trust my LCP enough to carry every day. Although I have quite a few larger caliber firearms, none can deep conceal as well as the LCP. If I can carry larger without printing I will, but even then my LCP is still with me.

My little constant companion:

 

[Nise]

gglass, guess thats the thing about it, sometimes when im wearing loose sweats or shorts and a tshirt you can hide the lcp, or as on gunblast he called it Miss Elsie Pea, lol, about anywhere. I have bigger, i like to rotate between my 357 and 45, but this thing you can truly forget ur wearing it, throw it in your pants or shirt pocket and off you go. I know I can get it up to snuff if I have any problems the factory or dealer can't/ wont help with, (but would rather not), still no one dislike the mag release???

 

[Nise]

Hey Hey, ProMag!

Hey, sent Promag a question asking when they are gonna make a higher cap for miss Elsie Pea. Their response was their 2009 excel price list, I need to get back in touch w/ them to find out if they are for sale yet or not. Like to also find out if what they have for a grip extension? Personally I think an 8rnd would be about right.
RUG 13 LCP .380 ACP (6) RD BLUE $29.38 708279-00900(6)
RUG 14 LCP .380 ACP (10) RD BLUE $32.66 708279-00901(3)
RUG-A21 LCP .380 ACP (15) RD BLUE $35.92 708279-00899(3)

but a ten would be cool, and I'd have to procure a couple 15's just for the fact of having our new Czar, uh, Premiere?

 

[Nise]

contented now

well, fired several boxes through new LCP using 'old style' mags and am quite content. I did some testing on wet newspaper using a variety of weights and brands and the Speer 90gr gold dots behind a stiff load of Unique performed best and well to my liking. Average penetration was ~13", almost nil for weight loss, and average expansion diameter was .540" (152%)(which out penetrated several 45acp's I tried out, (including fed hyrashocks). I still dont trust the new finger grip mags and will stick with the old style.