S&W 158gr LSWCHP +P Water Test

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I've been on several firearms boards asking about this .38spl ammunition which carries Smith and Wesson's name. It is 158gr LSWCHP +P. The lead does feel hard; I can scratch it with a fingernail but I cannot deform it by hand.

I decided to do a water shoot. We have a new pup so newspaper for wetpack is in short supply.

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Here is the setup. Prior to this test I did on with a 125gr bullet, and that bullet penetrated three jugs. I figured with the increased weight I'd need at least that.

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Here is my view. I figured the old computers would be appropriate.

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This is me taking the shot in my "Silent Bob" getup - or - I need to get off my butt and lose weight! This picture is a still taken from a video of the shot. Please forgive the quality.

I have to say here, recoil was not what I expected out of a revolver that size. It is comparable to my full sized all metal 9mm with +P loads. Now, I know someone's going to want to see the whole video. Here it is:

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Click on the pic. Just don't hold it against me! It's about 5mb in size if I remember correctly, so dialup, count on a download time of 15mins to 1/2 hour.

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As you can see, the first two jugs are very torn up. Taking the video of the shoot frame-by-frame, I can see the individual impacts. It's enlightening as to when the energy is actually released.

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The bullet penetrated through the fourth jug and came to rest between the fourth and fifth, causing no damage to the fifth jug.

The total penetration came out to about 24" of water, or about 12" of gelatin.

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Here's the expanded bullet. It measures right around .52"x.51" and is about .63" tall.

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For comparison...

As compared to the Magtech 125gr I tested a while back, this round appeals to me more, at least insofar as water jugs are concerned. While this round penetrated four water jugs and expanded to over half an inch, the Magtech only penetrated three jugs and partially expanded to a bit less than half an inch at its widest point.

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The Magtech, for comparison...

I plan on shooting one of these S&W rounds through four layers of denim into water as soon as I am able to gather more jugs.

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As you can see, the round overexpanded a bit. I am hoping a denim test will provide results as realistic as one can get by shooting water.

Overall, I am cautiously impressed. The S&W fodder has become my carry ammo for the time being.

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That ammo is pretty old, don't know if I personally would use it for home defense. I know ammo has a long shelf life but unless you know how it has been stored all these years, I don't know if I'd trust it.
 
No worries

Remington sells their version of this ammo new. I just bought some myself to test against offerings from other manufacturers.
 
Both Remington and Winchester offer equivalent loads, and Buffalo Bore produces a 158-grain LSWCHP round that achieves +P velocity while not exceeding standard pressure. The expansion and penetration data provided here should apply fairly similarly to these other rounds.
 
Folks have said for years that round will get it done. Nice review. Good results with that load.
 
Just try Buffalo Bore 158gr LSWHPs. I chrono them at 1000 from a 2 inch M64 and a 2 inch 640 (and man do they kick from that 640.)

From a 2 3/4 speed six they get 1100 fps! I suspect they hit 1200 from a 4 inch .38.

Zero extraction problems. And yep, the SD revolvers are loaded with it.
 
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