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Robbins290
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Anybody know a goof owb holster for one? Cant seem to find one.
S&w 4506
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JTQ
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I'd think just about anybody that's been making holsters for a few years will still have a mold for the 4506, such as Alessi, Rosen, Sparks, Kramer, etc.
Here is the Alessi CQC-S http://www.alessigunholsters.com/alessi-holsters-cqc-s-holster-for-smith-wesson-guns/
Here is the Alessi CQC-S http://www.alessigunholsters.com/alessi-holsters-cqc-s-holster-for-smith-wesson-guns/
If you ask real nice, forum member el indio may just make you a nice one. He made one for my 1006 and it's a great holster!
MachIVshooter
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It is easily removed
As for holsters, many Beretta 92 holsters will fit the 10XX and 45XX quite well.
Tom Fury
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4506
Ya might get something from El Paso Saddlery: I think worth the wait:
I have and have owned several 4506's: prefer it to 5" 1911's.
Keep an eye out for Ed Brown speed safety he used to make for them.
I bought a police trade once that had a Novak cut but it had been cut all the way back to the end of the slide; Novaks replaced rear with Novak Officers' model sight which hangs over the rear but gives a better appearance than the 745 style rear I think.
Might look at bikini holsters made for Sig 220 or 226 or HK if you don't mind the overhang
open toe).
Some holsters made for Beretta 92 will work (squared guard and thickness thru at trigger guard are similar: some old Bianchis used to be marked for both or either).
Had a custom one made by Black Bear (I think it was) thats' nice; Have another from Andy Arratoonian (Horseshoe Leather in UK) but he cleared out his molds and doesn't do them (metal Smiths) anymore.
Bianchi Used to do a Speed Master for it; haven't seen one in years; missed one on GB a few years ago; have a Minuteman sheath from GB though.
Keep an eye out for old Bianchis stamped "Large Frame Auto"
As all have said: You got a steal. Really like the 4506; I like square guard.
I find Hogue grips too much; pretty much get grips only on GB or at shows anymore. I don't like curve backstrap either; for a kick, try 1076 half and half if you can find one; feels like CZ/Browning.
Didja know a 4516 or 4566 slide will work on a 4506 frame? (Usually) research 4596...
Cheers, TF
Ya might get something from El Paso Saddlery: I think worth the wait:
I have and have owned several 4506's: prefer it to 5" 1911's.
Keep an eye out for Ed Brown speed safety he used to make for them.
I bought a police trade once that had a Novak cut but it had been cut all the way back to the end of the slide; Novaks replaced rear with Novak Officers' model sight which hangs over the rear but gives a better appearance than the 745 style rear I think.
Might look at bikini holsters made for Sig 220 or 226 or HK if you don't mind the overhang
open toe).Some holsters made for Beretta 92 will work (squared guard and thickness thru at trigger guard are similar: some old Bianchis used to be marked for both or either).
Had a custom one made by Black Bear (I think it was) thats' nice; Have another from Andy Arratoonian (Horseshoe Leather in UK) but he cleared out his molds and doesn't do them (metal Smiths) anymore.
Bianchi Used to do a Speed Master for it; haven't seen one in years; missed one on GB a few years ago; have a Minuteman sheath from GB though.
Keep an eye out for old Bianchis stamped "Large Frame Auto"
As all have said: You got a steal. Really like the 4506; I like square guard.
I find Hogue grips too much; pretty much get grips only on GB or at shows anymore. I don't like curve backstrap either; for a kick, try 1076 half and half if you can find one; feels like CZ/Browning.
Didja know a 4516 or 4566 slide will work on a 4506 frame? (Usually) research 4596...
Cheers, TF
Robbins290: Dude, you got a steal of a deal on that S&W 4506.
I picked up this Smith 4566 some years back.
It was a cop trade-in and, like most of those, came to me dirty and carried a lot but shot hardly at all, except at the annual qualification ritual which most cop mistake for "training."
Anywho, ... I already owned several Smith 3rd Gen 10XX-series pistols, had shot several 4506s that belonged to range buddies, had spent trigger time in the mid-'80s with one 2d Gen 645 (back when those were the new, hot-to-get, big-bore autoloader), and later on some of the early 5906s.
All of these proved to be steel tanks that showed above average accuracy, ... so I sort of knew what to expect from a used but above-average 4566.
But it actually shot much better than I expected.
In fact, I came to like it more than my Sig 220, even though it was heavier than the Sig for CCW.
Both were about tied for accuracy w/ loads they liked.
Enjoy yours ...
I picked up this Smith 4566 some years back.
It was a cop trade-in and, like most of those, came to me dirty and carried a lot but shot hardly at all, except at the annual qualification ritual which most cop mistake for "training."
Anywho, ... I already owned several Smith 3rd Gen 10XX-series pistols, had shot several 4506s that belonged to range buddies, had spent trigger time in the mid-'80s with one 2d Gen 645 (back when those were the new, hot-to-get, big-bore autoloader), and later on some of the early 5906s.
All of these proved to be steel tanks that showed above average accuracy, ... so I sort of knew what to expect from a used but above-average 4566.
But it actually shot much better than I expected.
In fact, I came to like it more than my Sig 220, even though it was heavier than the Sig for CCW.
Both were about tied for accuracy w/ loads they liked.
Enjoy yours ...
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sigma 40ve
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Congrats, you stole it. Looks just like mine, except mine has Tulsa Co Oklahoma Sheriff etching on it. I did put an adjustable sight on mine.
AKElroy
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I believe Sonny Crockett carried a Bren Ten, not a 1006/1076/4506. Not sure where he found the mags.........
Joe Demko
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He started off with a Bren Ten. As the show went on, he started using a 3rd Gen, but I don't remember which model. I liked that show at the time, but the couple times I've tried to watch it recently, I couldn't get through a whole episode. Never much cared for Don Johnson in anything else, either. Some things are best just left in memory, I guess
huntsman
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I went with Don Hume for my 4566
AKElroy
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Who needs a good memory with Wikipedia? I just edjumacated myself. Crockett carried the Bren until season 3, when he switched to a 645. In the final season, he upgraded to the 4506. While the Bren was made for the 10mm, Crockett's was chambered in .45acp; I assume for ease of locating blanks.
The Reverend
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Being something of a MV aficionado... Crockett carried carried the following:
- Pilot Episode: Sig P220 (probably a Browning BDA) and a Detonics Pocket 9 as a backup.
- Seasons 1&2: Bren 10 and a Detonics Combat Master in an ankle holster.
- Seasons 3&4: S&W 645; he kept the Combat Master.
- Season 5: S&W 4506 and a S&W 6906 as backup on the ankle.
Happy to contribute worthless information to a worthy thread!!!
- Pilot Episode: Sig P220 (probably a Browning BDA) and a Detonics Pocket 9 as a backup.
- Seasons 1&2: Bren 10 and a Detonics Combat Master in an ankle holster.
- Seasons 3&4: S&W 645; he kept the Combat Master.
- Season 5: S&W 4506 and a S&W 6906 as backup on the ankle.
Happy to contribute worthless information to a worthy thread!!!
Confederate
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The second and third generation Smith autos are the most underrated guns I can think of. I have a 645 that feeds empty shell casings. They sold for substantially less than the 1911s but had just as much steel in them and were far more reliable. I don't think they could make these guns now and have them sell for less than a grand. The 645/4506s are simply better guns than the 1911. In fact, that's what they are -- improved 1911s with a double action trigger. Smith and Wesson started out very shakily with its flawed 39/59 series of 9mm. But when the 459 came out, it was the only 9mm (other than the Beretta) that made it through the military's initial trials. The Beretta had a mean failure rate of 1 out of 2000, while the Smith had a failure rate of 1 out of 952. The Colt 1911 was a miserable failure. I've talked to a number of soldiers and the overwhelming majority said they needed the extra firepower and added penetration of the 9mm vice the .45acp.
The stainless guns also are gorgeous. As noted above, many are shown on television and in the movies. When someone pulls out a 4506 or a 5906, people notice them because they have enormous aesthetics appeal. These guns are very popular amongst the British, though they have to be deactivated before they can be legally purchased. Can you imagine going to your safe and retrieving it so you could show it to your dinner guests? And the thing is, they're as expensive as the real thing in the U.S. Over there, they're curiosities and props. At about $500 or so, most people keep them well hidden or in safes.
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The stainless guns also are gorgeous. As noted above, many are shown on television and in the movies. When someone pulls out a 4506 or a 5906, people notice them because they have enormous aesthetics appeal. These guns are very popular amongst the British, though they have to be deactivated before they can be legally purchased. Can you imagine going to your safe and retrieving it so you could show it to your dinner guests? And the thing is, they're as expensive as the real thing in the U.S. Over there, they're curiosities and props. At about $500 or so, most people keep them well hidden or in safes.
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AKElroy
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I know I'm resurrecting an old thread here, but what the heck - it's Saturday & I don't have anything to do anyway...
You are almost correct. In season 5, Crockett carried a transitional 645. I have one; it is identified on the frame as a 645. The factory box identifies it as a Model 6450. It has the 1-piece grips with curved back-strap & a dovetailed front sight as does a 4506, the rear sight is the same shape as a 645 but has 2-dots instead of a white outline (but is not a Novak or Novak-shaped sight), & the right side safety lever is the 3rd generation type as opposed to being held on with a screw as was the 645.
This isn't a picture of my box, but one I found online:
Again - not my pic but one I found online:
OK - back to your regularly scheduled thread now...
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4506s....
The 4506 is a handful.
The S&W 4506 .45acp for $225.00 is a great buy. If you had to clean it or fix it up, it'd be worth it.
Id suggest adding new 3 dot night sights from Trijicon or maybe Wayne Novak, www.novaksights.com . S&W or maybe a online vendor may have NIB/brand new .45acp 4506 magazines.
Id buy a new 4506 barrel too but those may be rare, you can try E-gunparts.com but I wouldn't get too excited.
New S&W grips or maybe slick wood grips from Hogue would be a nice touch, .
I prefer the older round grip style(like the posted 4506). Smith & Wesson ended offering a choice in the late 1990s. They used to offer either the straight or "rounded" style then went to just the "straight" format. I think that was to appeal to traditional 1911a1 shooters.
The 4506 .45acp was popular in many film/TV productions. NBC's Miami Vice FX's The Shield etc.
The 4506 is a handful.
The S&W 4506 .45acp for $225.00 is a great buy. If you had to clean it or fix it up, it'd be worth it.
Id suggest adding new 3 dot night sights from Trijicon or maybe Wayne Novak, www.novaksights.com . S&W or maybe a online vendor may have NIB/brand new .45acp 4506 magazines.
Id buy a new 4506 barrel too but those may be rare, you can try E-gunparts.com but I wouldn't get too excited.
New S&W grips or maybe slick wood grips from Hogue would be a nice touch,
.I prefer the older round grip style(like the posted 4506). Smith & Wesson ended offering a choice in the late 1990s. They used to offer either the straight or "rounded" style then went to just the "straight" format. I think that was to appeal to traditional 1911a1 shooters.
The 4506 .45acp was popular in many film/TV productions. NBC's Miami Vice FX's The Shield etc.
Tom Fury
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Holsters and stuff
Have had two made for mine with square guard (Horseshoe leather and another maker in states I can't recall (Bear Paw?); Horseshoe doesn't do them anymore; when plastic guns came in dies went out; I am aware there were at one time Galco Combat Masters made for it (my Holy Grail Holster) but the last I saw one it got away (Gunbroker). There is also a Bianchi with an internal retainer for the guard that is much more common and both fit (not my favourite). Also have an old Minute Man.
If you can find a 1076 grip, that is an in between round and straight experience you might like...
I am also aware than some makers used to just label their holsters "Large Frame Auto" and anything labelled thus would fit either a 4506 or a Beretta 92 which has square guard and similar 5" dimensions; you just need to look for something not too specifically boned for the pinched in Beretta slide.
I would +1 the idea of an El Paso street combat; I have one made for Sig 220 that perfectly accommodates 4563; Otherwise, I think you're looking for old cop holsters from forces where they were issue weapons.
Only downside seems to be there isn't much you can do to customize them; Ed Brown used to make a speed safety that was kind of slick (replaces the slide safety; drop in part) but they are hard to find now. Bar-Sto used to do a barrel (bring it back please!)
You got a steal! The last one I bought cost me 550! Parts kits come up every once in a while on GB, but everybody who is selling the guns seems to have decided they have something antique and want more than is realistic for them.
They are special though and one should be happy owning one (unfortunately I find them like beer nuts and actresses; you can't stop with just one).
Cheers, J
Have had two made for mine with square guard (Horseshoe leather and another maker in states I can't recall (Bear Paw?); Horseshoe doesn't do them anymore; when plastic guns came in dies went out; I am aware there were at one time Galco Combat Masters made for it (my Holy Grail Holster) but the last I saw one it got away (Gunbroker). There is also a Bianchi with an internal retainer for the guard that is much more common and both fit (not my favourite). Also have an old Minute Man.
If you can find a 1076 grip, that is an in between round and straight experience you might like...
I am also aware than some makers used to just label their holsters "Large Frame Auto" and anything labelled thus would fit either a 4506 or a Beretta 92 which has square guard and similar 5" dimensions; you just need to look for something not too specifically boned for the pinched in Beretta slide.
I would +1 the idea of an El Paso street combat; I have one made for Sig 220 that perfectly accommodates 4563; Otherwise, I think you're looking for old cop holsters from forces where they were issue weapons.
Only downside seems to be there isn't much you can do to customize them; Ed Brown used to make a speed safety that was kind of slick (replaces the slide safety; drop in part) but they are hard to find now. Bar-Sto used to do a barrel (bring it back please!)
You got a steal! The last one I bought cost me 550! Parts kits come up every once in a while on GB, but everybody who is selling the guns seems to have decided they have something antique and want more than is realistic for them.
They are special though and one should be happy owning one (unfortunately I find them like beer nuts and actresses; you can't stop with just one).
Cheers, J
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hemiram
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Wow, you scored big with this deal! I thought I was doing good when I paid $400 shipped for my really nice police trade in 4506 a couple years ago. Unlike a lot of the PD trade ins I've bought, it was super clean. The only thing "wrong" is the night sights are pretty dim.
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I really really want a 4506.
Confederate
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I have the earlier S&W 645, which also is a remarkable gun. And I are it's one of the most under-valued guns out there (as are all second- and third-generation Smith autos. The gun is BIG and intimidating. It's also exceptionally reliable.
Here's my 645 (top) and my 659. Both are outstanding guns!
Here's my 645 (top) and my 659. Both are outstanding guns!
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