S&W 638 or 642?

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Which of these would you get and why? I was thinking the 638 because its equally as snag proof as the 642 but gives you the option of cocking a hammer if you want to. Any particular reason why you would go for one over the other?
 
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I owned many S&W model 38's and 49's (Bodyguard models, same as the
638); but I decided to go with the 642 this time a'round. On the 638 it
is possible for dirt, debris, or even one thin dime too slip into the action
and could render the weapon useless.:uhoh: That combined with the weight
factor is why I chose the 642~!:cool: :D
 
I prefer the look of the humpback models (38, 638, etc.), but for carry I prefer the 642 for all the reasons Ala Dan mentioned.

Still wish I hadn't sold that model 38 I had a couple of years ago. Bought it for $200 too.....


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Hello. This was done a while back but might be of interest:

It appears to me that the Model 642 is probably the most popular snub that Smith & Wesson has produced in recent years. I remember that before this version of their J-frame .38 Special was reborn, I routinely carried a Model 37 with the hammer spur removed as a back up gun when in police service. When these covered hammer snubs hit the market I purchased a Model 042 and eventually a few more...including a Model 638.

In the past on some other sites I've seen folks vigorously proclaiming the virtues of one over the other and in some cases, sadly, the discussion degenerated into a virtual shouting match...which is both rude and in my view, stupid.

Let's just take a brief unemotional look at these revolvers and see if any conclusions can be drawn.

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Both the 642 and 638 are intended to be snag free and for pocket or concealed carry. Both of these have aluminum alloy frames with the barrel and cylinder of stainless steel. Some parts are of hardchromed steel such as the triggers. Both are the same size and have round butt grip profiles. Obviously the primary difference is that the "hammerless" 642 does not allow single-action shooting while the 638 does offer that option.

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This photograph better shows the differences between the internally hammered Model 642 vs. the shrouded Model 638. It's interesting to note that an "add on" part to shroud the hammer against snagging was once made for the Colt snubs that competed against the Model 638, so it would appear that concerns over hammer spurs snagging on clothing has been both widespread and long term.

One gun writer wrote that he has never been able to get any version of the shrouded J-frame snub to shoot as tightly as the others. Perhaps, but that has not proven true in my own experiences with both. I cannot shoot one better than the other in double-action. It seems to me that smoothness of the individual revolver's double-action might well be the determining factor should a fellow see much difference in the performance of two similar snubs from the same maker.

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With the Model 638 the hammer can be cocked for a light, single-action shot if desired. To some the idea of being able to make a more precise shot, perhaps at distance, is an option that they like having. Others suggest that such is not at all likely and that the single-action option leaves one open to suggestions during a civil suit that they cocked the revolver and then unintentionally and negligently shot the poor scum that was trying rape, rob, murder, (take your pick) them. I
suggest that the buyer/owner/shooter make his decision on which to get based on his own perceptions of what is important.


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Lowering the hammer on the Model 638 is done with less thumb contact on the exposed portion of the hammer spur. I have never had a problem with it and I do not think that it invokes any major difficulties over lowering a non-shrouded hammer, but I don't think that it is quite as "sure" on the Model 638.

Some years ago I read that if carrying the Model 38 or any version of the shrouded snub to be sure and not have any loose change in your pocket or a dime could become wedged between the hammer spur and the frame and tie up the gun. Unless S&W has altered some dimensions on the hammer or frame, I found this to be impossible to do. A dime simply will not fit between the side of this revolver's hammer and frame. I guess a paperclip or an object of the right size might could do this, but a pocket holster goes a long way in preventing such. I also carry only the holstered revolver in my pocket and I'll bet most other folks using this method of carry do the same. I have found
the area behind the hammer on the 638 to be a "lint & crud magnet." Pocket carry is simply dirtier than most expect and after toting the Model 638 for ten days as I normally do my well-worn Model 642, I was surprised at the amount of crud that it had picked up. At the same time, the gun worked fine and the trigger pull was not affected.

For me, the Model 642 is the favorite.

The primary reason is the lack of another opening for grit and lint to build up. That is my "primary reason", but it is not much of one if we simply clean and maintain our personal carry guns at least once every week or so. Being an old revolver guy for years, I shoot primarily double-action with most six and five-guns and do not find the single-action capability on a revolver of this size to be that much of an advantage. (I definitely do prefer having a single-action option on K, L, and N-frames.)

In the end I simply cannot find much difference between these revolvers in practical terms. One may have a bit of an advantage in some aspects while the other offers what
might be a plus for some people.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and is subjective, but I find the 642 more pleasing to the eye. Some will agree. Some will not and others won't care one way or the other, but it is my opinion that either of these little guns will serve about as well as the other and that the potential buyer/user should go with the one he/she prefers.

I just don't see enough difference to get hot under the collar about. Were I in the market for a first J-frame snub, and had these two choices, I'd probably go for the one having the best price assuming similar action smoothness.

Best.
 
Nice write up, and nice comparison photos. I too am considering a 638 (or Taurus 651) and the point about crud and lent getting caught up in the hammer area is something I have never thought of.

How do you clean this area of a 638 or any other shrouded hammer snubbie?
 
Hello. I don't carry my 638 much, but have cleaned lint, etc out with a very, very lightly oil Q-tip and then follow with a dry one.

Best.
 
Lady45 often carries her Taurus 651 in either a holster purse or a specially designed similar gadget.
She's never had any problem with any form of dirt or crud finding it's way into the hammer shroud.
I carried a 1972 vintage Model 49 in an ankle holster for about six years and never had a problem either.


If people are carrying their guns in such a way that they are having a problem I'd be much more worried about that was building up inside the chamber mouths and the muzzle!
Some people ARE pigs.
That could really be dangerous!
 
I have a 649 and an M38.
I prefer the shrouded hammer to the enclosed hammer, to the point that I've never owned a 642, or other similar revolver. After 25 yards I usually shoot them single action, although I have practiced DA shooting out to 50 yards.

I like the look of the Bodyguard series guns better than other snubs.
So, I'd buy the 638.

I've had some trouble finding loads that shoot to point of aim, but all the Bodyguards I've shot have been quite accurate.
 
I prefer the 638. Carried one many a mile in an old Mex pocket holster, When I no longer required deep concealment I sold it. Still miss it...Essex
 
I picked the 642 because I liked the looks a little better. The less nooks and crannies to clean is just an extra treat.

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I like going out in the country to visit my uncles farm, I carry my Taurus 651 for protection just in case something goes wrong with the car on the way, I would not like to be stranded out there alone with my wife and kids without my gun. But when we get there and while the rest of the family is talking near the grill I like to step aside with my cousins and shoot some cans or something, so my personal defence gun also serves as a recreational gun in single action.
I clean it regularly, like I do my auto pistol obviously it is a lot easier, maybe wipe it and a Q tip will take care of any lint in the shrouds.
 
I like my 642, but if the two guns had been sitting side by side for the same price, I would likely have bought the 638 instead (around here, the 638 is quite a bit more expensive). I don't think the "crud around the hammer" issue is likely to be a factor (keep an eye on it), and the ability to thumbcock might potentially be useful.

These snubs are surprisingly accurate, and the only things keeping a person from making decent longer range shots with the 642 are 1) miserable sights and 2) heavy DA pull. While you can "stage" the trigger if you are careful (there's a very slight "hitch" at full cock when the cylinder has rotated fully into position) you can make a SA shot, but it's very hard to hold the trigger at that point. However, the recoil means these guns aren't great for long range stints, and if close range defensive use is unlikely, long range defensive use is almost unthinkable.

You know, I really don't know that it makes much difference as to which one you get. I kinda prefer the looks of the 642, but appearance on a defensive gun is neither here nor there. Either will get the job done extraordinarily well.
 
I recently purchased a Taurus 651, I picked the 651 because I like having the option of shooting it SA and the option of using either .357 or .38spl

When I do begin to carry, Im not worried about lint or other crud getting in the way of it functioning, as A) If Im going to throw it in a pocket, it'll be in a pocket holster, B) If it's in a pocket, it'll be the only thing in the pocket and C) If enough lint does get into action to cause it to stop working, I haven't maintained/cleaned it properly
(in a looooong time) and shouldn't be carrying a gun....:neener:
 
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I think "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and we are never going to get a consus of opinion on this issue.

I personally just like the ugly looks of the Bodyguards, but that's just me.

I DO know that my 638 has the best trigger of any of my snubby's. The 638 has the wider, smooth, target trigger, and it makes shooting the little sucker a lot more fun.

You can't go wrong with either the 638 or the 642 in my opinion..

I'm embarrassed to admit I do NOT care for the snubby's with the "lock".. Too many older J-frames floating around for sale for me to want anything but a prelock.. But that's just me. :D

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy
 
Regarding the beautifull ugly looks of the shrouded hammer snubs, the grips have a lot to do on the overall look of the gun, I personally think a bodyguard with rubber grips looks more appeling than a body guard with skinny wooden grips, but that is my opinion.:rolleyes:
 
For years I've wanted a 638. Let one at a low price slip through my fingers a couple months ago. Now I'm coming into a little extra dough next month, and I'm looking at all sorts of other guns. Seeing this thread has put me back on track to the 638.

Thanks

Tuckerdog1
 
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