s&w 642 VS ruger lc9

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I notice a couple of days ago it has been one year since I purchase the Ruger LC9 to replace my S&W 642 as back up and off duty. I have in the pass own 6 snub nose off and on and several years ago I got the 642 and decided that was it I would just stay with the snub nose since i have always had some problems with small semi autos. When the mini 9mm began comeing out I began looking at them and the LC9 did it for me the price was right and it was a good size. Other then the rear sight coming loose which a little loctie fix and the weapon dropping the magazine twice which i'm sure was my fault and in the early days while I was getting use to it the ruger have been a great weapon. I took them both out yesterday (has'nt shot the 642 in a year) and the 642 reminded me how much I love small j-frames kinda thinking of going back to it but of course I would give up 3 rounds. Which I belive most time 5 shots are all you need in a back up or off duty I'm just wondering if I'm thinking of going back to the snub cause i'm getting old and want to go back in time and not accept new things. Has anyone gone from a small j-frame to a mini 9mm and then back again and if so why. thanks for any input

be safe
 
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I have been on the same journey.My lc9 has been perfect and very accurate,but i still have my detective special,police positive special and ruger service six.I am going to purchase either a ruger lcr or s&w j frame.My favorite pocket carry is a walther tph 22 but I'm torn between semi's and wheelguns also!
 
I only personally know one guy (another instructor) who bought a LC9 to replace his 642.

He returned it to Ruger for a light strike problem (assorted ammo). They returned it to him after reportedly correcting the light-strike issue and a magazine drop issue.

The guy got rid of the LC9 after the light-strike condition was repeated with duty ammo. He went back to carrying his 642.

Last I heard, he's awaiting the LE model of the Shield 9 to be shipped so he can try that little 9.

Now, I'm a long time revolver owner, user & shooter myself. I carried issued revolvers for several years before we finally transitioned to semiauto's.

I still own, shoot & carry an assortment of J-frames (I have 7 of them), even though I also own, use and carry a number of smallish 9, .40 & .45's.

I'm also awaiting shipment of the LE model Shield 9, but I have no plans to stop carrying my J's. I anticipate probably adding the Shield 9 to my "working/retirement guns", although I expect it might result in some of my larger pistols seeing a bit less carry use.

Dunno about whether or not you're wanting to accept "new things". ;) Maybe you're just more comfortable with the little revolver? Nothing wrong with that. Not really. However, how well can you shoot it when the fur's flying? ;)

The difference between having 5 or 7-8 rounds at hand between loading (reloading) is your call. Either answer you choose is probably the right one for you.

I only carry the 5-shot DAO J's for defense against 1 or maybe 2 attackers, myself. I wouldn't carry one if I couldn't shoot them well, though.

No, I wouldn't carry them as "primary" weapons if I were still working. I'm not, though, meaning I'm no longer being sent to the scene of reported crimes involving suspected weapons, or handling cases where I'm intentionally inserting myself in potentially dangerous situations where folks of possible criminal intent might be armed. Potentially dangerous and violent situations and people are going to have to try and find me nowadays, and I have more control over my movements and activities than when I was working.

Now, you mentioned that you haven't shot the 642 in about a year. Shooting is a perishable skill. (I know I don't have to tell you that, but you're not the only person reading this post, right? ;) ) The smaller handguns often tend to be more of a challenge to even experienced shooters, and the DAO snubs maybe more so.

Maybe it's time to get back to a range and revisit your fondness for the 642, dust off those DA revolver skills ... and see if the little J still seems to serve you as well as you remember.

Personally, I don't see the issue of the little snub versus a little pistol as being a "one or the other" question, for myself, but then even though I'm retired I still put in time as an instructor and have been working to keep mys skills sharp with both.

You have to make this decision for yourself.

I wouldn't give a moment's concern to what anyone else might think, though. You're the one who may have to use it, right? Make the call in your best interests. ;)

If it helps, the diminutive J-frames are making yet another comeback in popularity and use among both LE and lawfully armed private persons. I know a LOT of fellow firearms instructors who have chosen to carry J's over the years, even if they normally "prefer" to carry some other weapon when circumstances and activities permit.

The J's can be downright handy ... for the folks who can safely, accurately & effectively shoot them, of course.

Suit yourself. :)

My thoughts.

Yep, my 9's that hold 7-10 rounds in the magazines hold more rounds than my 5-shot J's. I can't slip them into a cloth pocket holster in the front pocket of my jeans or slacks, though.
 
Thanks for the feed back. I know what you mean fastbolt by it not being a one or the other but with me it always have been. I have never really wanted more then one handgun around for a job. When I got the LC9 I really went against the norm for me I normally sell a weapon when I get one that fill the same role. This time I kept the 642 since I have had so much problems in the past with small semi auto. I do have two duty size semi auto but one is issued. When I go shooting I like to shoot all weapons I carry that why I keep the count low so I can afford it. Look like I will still keep the 642 for awhile I still feel like the lc9 may fail me no real reason to just pass luck with small autos.

be safe
 
Even though I don't like the locks on the Smiths, I would take the Smith over the plastic framed LC9.
 
Even though I don't like the locks on the Smiths, I would take the Smith over the plastic framed LC9.

I picked up a new 642 without the lock a few months ago.

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Although I had to buy online to get it. I am really liking this 642!
 
I went from an lc9 to a Ruger LCR snub and to me it was a huge upgrade as far as shootability and enjoyment (and ammo options) go.
 
Sorry I can't help you decide to keep carrying the LCP but I'm a revolver guy and carry a M442 daily. It's my always handgun and I wouldn't be without it!
 
I started with a M38 then to a 642, pf9, cm9, pf9,lcr and now I'm back to my 642. I had mag drops as well. I even bought a 36 yesterday and found my I like my 642 better so I sold the 36 off. I plan on buying a pair of old wooden stock s&w grips and calling it good with my 642
 
fxstchewy said:
...a lot of money is spent trying to better the 642/442, me included....

I don't always make the right decision first, but for once I did. After a lot of research and many conversations with shooter friends, I bought a no-lock 642 as my concealed carry gun when I first decided to carry, just over two years ago. To date, it's the only gun I've carried concealed, and it's quite likely going to be some time to come. It's very concealable and plenty powerful, and for me, nothing beats the reliability of a revolver. I like it, I know it, and I shoot it well, so why change?

I have semi-autos, but no itty-bitty ones. I have carried a semi-auto only once (when I was sub-ing in a gun shop for a day), and it felt bulky and awkward all day (it was an open G22). Got home that evening and switched back to the 642.

Ah, that's better!
 
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Many years ago I bought a Detonics Pocket 9
Great looking and size was right too.
I would bet the trigger was 20+ pounds DA SA about 8-10 if I recall.
It made a lot of noise and jumped a lot. It is gone, thanks to God for that.
Later the next mistake a KelTek P11 plenty light and at 3 yards it would do the job.
Then the Glock 27 which I plan on keeping. Not a micro but accurate and reliable as it is ugly.
I also plan on keeping my 640 with Grashorns and Tyler grip adapter.
Reason for the wheel gun. It works 100% with any ammo. I like the 158 LHP +P for carry.It also works aimed or in the pocket ormitten. It rides in my pocket on the belt or in a Bianchi R9 shoulder rig.
In a high stress event, the DA only with no worry about clearing a jam is a winner for me. Each to their own.
 
I've done the same thing. I started with revolvers, then switched to semi autos and back to revolvers again.
 
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