I had both an early Model 469, and a later Model 669. Both were decent enough guns; good DA triggers and acceptable accuracy. But I never quite got used to the overall shape of the grip. It seemed to me to be a little too wide and rounded, like I was trying to grip a softball. Maybe too, because I was more accustomed to the flatter and slimmer grip of the 1911. I also had a hard time reaching the safety up on the slide, but then again, my hands are rather small, so the reach may be quite another thing for someone else. No problems that I ever heard about, or encountered with my own guns.